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Religion excuses bigotry ?

by on Nov. 22, 2011, under Atheism, Bigotry, Catholic, Christian, GLBT, santorum

One of the remaining socially acceptable expressions of bigotry in the US is anti-gay bigotry, although much progress has been made in recent years due to the efforts of advocacy groups such as GLAAD.

I think this has it’s roots in the fact that as a nation we don’t take seperation of church and state seriously, and never have. It has always been “God and Country”, from the time that the Battle Hymn of the Republic vied with God Save the South to see which side God liked the most.

In the past this has resulted in considerable social strife – from anti-Catholic riots to institutional anti-semitism to McCarthyite purges. The excesses of Nazis sensitized us to the dangers of anti-semitism and the McCarthy era sensitized us to the overreaching of triumphant christianity. By the time of the election of a Catholic president and the civil rights movement we seemed to be entering and era that kept state endorsed religious doctrine in it’s place.

The Catholic church, however, is not native but is run by a foreign power and was not affected by American public opinion.

Its battle against birth control and determination to secure government funding of its’ schools and charities continued unabated. American Catholics may not have agreed – and even may have used birth control themselves – but that didn’t matter because the Bishops run the show.

When the Catholic church expanded it’s battle against birth control to a battle against abortion and got a strong emotional reaction from its flock, Jerry Falwell and the Christian Coalition noticed. Abortion rapidly became a rallying cry of Protestant denominations too. They had a winner.

And the burgeoning gay rights movement ran smack dab into this confluence of church and state and Anita Bryant. Today opposition to gay rights is a “religious” legal issue for American christianity, right alongside abortion.

But this time they don’t have a winner.

Yet the idea that God trumps Country is strong in the American DNA, and remains the major obstacle for GLBTs achieving equality. Followers of the anti-gay religions still have sympathy for subtle expressions of bigotry even though they consider themselves personally liberal and free of bigotry, as long as the expression of bigotry is couched in terms of religion.

Here’s an example I saw this morning, discussing military “chaplains”:

A new moral difficulty for some chaplains occurred in September when the Army repealed its “Don’t ask, don’t tell” policy on homosexuals.

“For those whose faith says homosexuality is a sin, it poses a huge problem,” Macauley says. “Are they now required to deny a tenet of their faith? Part of their role in the military is to teach – to provide a source of faith for soldiers. What happens if they teach that homosexuality is a sin? What happens when a gay couple seeks counseling?”

It is a requirement of the job of a military chaplain to provide support to ALL of their troops and to put aside any doctrinal teachings of their particular denomination.

It is true that this requirement is burdensome to some chaplains. Lt. Gordon Klingenschmit has achieved great notoriety claiming that his religious beliefs are being suppressed by the military because they won’t let him preach to Jewish soldiers that they must accept Jesus or burn in hell.

Few of us have sympathy for Lt. Klingenschmit if he insists on preaching that Jews go to hell in his official governmental capacity – but it is amazing how many have sympathy for Chaplain Macauley who wants to preach that gays go to hell.

That’s what happens when you mix religion and government.



  • del

    The lie that chaplains “put aside any doctrinal teachings” continues to find a home with other historical “Big Lie” examples of “say it enough and they’ll believe it.” Military chaplains DO provide religious support for any who seek their assistance. But they cannot divorce their advice, support, counsel and worship leadership from their faith-group tenets. They are endorsed to faithfully represent their faith-group as they serve…they are not generic religious providers. They will assist anyone to the limits of their faith…after which the troop will be referred to someone else. Such is the way of religious pluralism…many faiths in order that free exercise rights are supported.

    • http://www.creoginity.org Rev. David Gray

      I’m a Christian Interfaith minister and a veterans chaplain. Perhaps we need to open doors for interfaith ministers in the forces, as they seek to do what great figures of faith from Jesus to Gandhi did and meet people where the people themselves are and respect the higher nature within. Please follow this link to seek an end to abuse and bigotry in the name of religion: 
      http://www.change.org/petitions/not-in-his-name

      • Pacific Babe

        Rev Gray:  I see you are leading this charge and I thank you for making an effort.  I’ve copied this message of yours “Please prayerfully examine and move on from church institutional dysfunction and send a clear message that it is not acceptable to judge, attack or abuse those within or outside the Christian faith in the name of Jesus Christ.”  It’s a nice message, however, it is as you’ve said “interfaith”.  Do you accept christianity as reality or a nice little fable?  Have you ever explored if it would be helpful to discuss morality outside of religion?  I’m going to sign your petition and I encourage others to do the same.  I would be happier if you take religion out of the mix.  Babe
         
        PS:  Since I looked at your link, I hope you’ll do a search on the The Clergy Project at the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

  • http://cultbustersgalactica.yuku.com/directory Jeff Franklin

    What you have when you mix Atheism and Government is China’s “One Child Only Policy”. Forced abortions of millions of women who want a second child and selected abortions of female fetuses (gendercide) because the parents prefer their only child to be male.  Keep Atheism out of our government also!

    • Pacific Babe

      Jeff, you must be making the circles this morning.  Abortion in China is legal and government sponsored.  Hopefully their one-child policy will stabilize their population.  If you haven’t heard we’re now at a population of 7 billion and need to get population slowed and stabilized.  Catholics and mormons are of no help. Planned parenthood and reproductive education are the best solution to slow abortions … unfortunately not every young woman and man gets the education they need and we all know hormones cause reactions. 

      I’m curious to know how your comments about China relate to Tip O’Neills posting that religion excuses bigotry?  Are you leaving the same comments on the sports blogs?  Babe

      • Tip O’Neill

        Happy Turkey Day Babe :)
         

        • Pacific Babe

          You too Tip!  Babe