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Pro-Immigrant GOP Group Reacts to AZ Presidential Debate

by on Feb. 23, 2012, under Arpaio, Bob's Corner, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Ron Paul

Tucson, Arizona – After watching the Arizona presidential debate, we’re very disappointed that three of the four candidates are clearly tone deaf on immigration. This does not bode well for the GOP in the general election, as their comments and clear lack of practical solutions will help Obama with New Americans. Immigration is not the #1 issue, but ranks a close #2 among Latinos, according to recent polls.

Of the four, only Newt Gingrich seemed to fully grasp that the root cause of our problem with illegal immigration is our broken legal immigration system, mentioning that Congress did not follow-up the 1986 immigration laws with sensible guest worker program reforms. Historically, whenever our immigration laws are in conflict with free market capitalism the result has been illegal immigration.

Mitt Romney claims Arizona’s e-verify law reduced undocumented workers, when in fact undocumented workers regularly circumvent e-verify by borrowing a real person’s name and social security number, rendering Romney’s statistics dubious. Romney and Santorum both praised the Joe Arpaio policing model, embodied as Arizona’s SB1070 law, introduced shortly after Arpaio was stripped of 287(g) street immigration enforcement authority due to pervasive racial profiling and not following program guidelines.

Arpaio’s policing model is a proven failure. Crime, particularly violent crime, has skyrocketed in areas patrolled by Arpaio due to massive diversion of resources to immigration enforcement, while crime rates fell everywhere else in Arizona. In one community alone, 432 sex crimes went uninvestigated due to lack of resources and leadership. The federal government already has the 287(g) program to empower state and local police to enforce immigration laws, and 287(g) is problem plagued, according to ICE’s Inspector General.

A recent DOJ investigation, using Arpaio’s own traffic stop records, found Latinos are 4-9 times more likely to be stopped by Sheriff’s deputies, and 20% of the stops lacked probable cause, in other words ‘driving while brown.’ Now Arpaio wants the rest of Arizona and nation to follow his failed policing model, throwing the civil rights of 50 million Hispanics ‘under the bus.’

The candidates claim Obama isn’t enforcing immigration laws, when in fact immigration law enforcement and deportations have dramatically stepped up, and our ‘deporter-in-chief’ sets new records for deportations. The immigration court system and detention facilities are already straining at capacity, so more immigration enforcement without addressing other aspects just worsens the problem, and damages whole sectors of our economy such as agriculture.

Ron Paul claims illegal immigration happens due to the welfare state, yet undocumented immigrants have been barred for decades from welfare, and numerous audits in multiple states consistantly failed to find a problem with undocumented immigrants collecting welfare. You’d think as a libertarian Paul would grasp that our current immigration system is a failed progressive solution, and free markets largely determine immigration levels, not government quotas. Ron Paul is clearly a ‘crypto-libertarian’ when it comes to immigration.

The best way to stop immigrants from crossing our borders seeking work in the U.S. is to provide them a line to stand in for visas. For most immigrants, there never was ‘a line to stand in’, but there are jobs here that most Americans don’t want. Newt Gingrich is the only one of the four who fully grasps the problem.

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  • justlikegreece

    I think a visa line to stand in is the first one- Then the lines for Santa Obama’s goody bag in exchange for beholding to those who promise a continuation of the bread and circus’ while they can.

    You just don’t get it- The unemployment numbers are the worst for the uneducated- They practically bottom out between High School graduates and those not finishing High School… In other words we have plenty of white lugs, we don’t really need any more.

    Put a private company in charge of IDs like Bank of America-

    Offer EVERY right EXCEPT the right to vote to current illegalsand see how many Democrats would back THAT proposition- Even that ineffective, marginalized, back bencher Grijalva would not support it.

  • Leo Baoighill

    “The best way to stop immigrants from crossing our borders seeking work in the U.S. is to provide them a line to stand in for visas. For most immigrants, there never was ‘a line to stand in’, but there are jobs here that most Americans don’t want. Newt Gingrich is the only one of the four who fully grasps the problem.”

    What are you def? This is exactly the essance of what Ron Paul said about it.

    ” Probably not, but we can do a better job, and the best way to do it is forget about the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan and deal with our borders, put our resources on this border…  I think that we should have much more immigration service on the border to make it easier — it’s hard to even get to visit this country. We’re losing a lot of visitors and workers that could come to this country because we have an inefficient immigration service.”

    Direct quote from the debate transcript you no-name hack. Gingrich makes me want to puke.

  • http://forumsforjustice.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3997&postcount=13 Forums4Justice

    E-Verify is sweeping the nation as the most effective tool to weed out millions of illegal workers from AMERICAN jobs. http://bit.ly/gO6lYf

    • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

      The feds have been trying since 1997 to make e-verify work and it’s still flawed.

      According to a report prepared for the GAO, e-verify fails to detect 54% of undocumented workers, who simply use another person’s identity to circumvent e-verify.

      Meanwhile e-verify severely inconveniences and humiliates law abiding citizens and legal immigrants, who are 15-20X more likely to be falsely rejected and then spend days or even weeks dealing with bureaucrats trying to fix mistakes made by bureaucrats.

      • http://forumsforjustice.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3997&postcount=13 Forums4Justice

        adios illegalles

        amf

  • http://forumsforjustice.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3997&postcount=13 Forums4Justice

    Illegal Immigration http://bit.ly/zKUNxy

  • http://forumsforjustice.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3997&postcount=13 Forums4Justice

    decades ago, migrant workers came for the “season” be it planting, harvesting, canning, and then, returned home.  After Reagan’s 1986 Amnesty they came to stay, illegal, or not.

    • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

      Wrong, after border security was beefed up, instead of moving back and forth, they stayed and brought their families. Congress was supposed to fix guest worker programs, and to this day still has not.

      As long as our immigration and guest worker system is severely disconnected from our economy, this problem will be with us. We cannot enforce our way to a working system, and if we try much more enforcement broad sectors of our economy that depend on low-skilled labor will fail, and those jobs will go elsewhere.

      • http://forumsforjustice.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3997&postcount=13 Forums4Justice

        lol