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		<title>Is Marco Rubio a Natural Born Citizen?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that President Obama has been reelected, likely 2016 candidates are emerging, especially Marco Rubio, and undoubtedly the birther movement will question: is Marco Rubio a natural born citizen? Is Marco Rubio eligible to be president? The alternative media started raising doubts when speculation began about Marco Rubio as a potential presidential candidate or VP [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that President Obama has been reelected, likely 2016 candidates are emerging, especially Marco Rubio, and undoubtedly the birther movement will question: is Marco Rubio a natural born citizen? Is Marco Rubio eligible to be president? The alternative media started raising doubts when speculation began about Marco Rubio as a potential presidential candidate or VP running mate in 2012, and for sure birther speculation will increase as Marco Rubio is in the limelight as a likely 2016 presidential candidate.</p>
<p>Birthers will also likely ask the same questions about another potential presidential contender, Bobby Jindal, whose parents weren&#8217;t U.S. citizens or permanent residents when Jindal was born.</p>
<p>Sadly, one likely reason Marco Rubio was passed over as Mitt Romney&#8217;s vice-presidential pick was the likelihood that Marco Rubio would have been constantly dogged by birthers. In my opinion, Rubio would have helped Mitt Romney immensely with Latino voters once they got to know him better, and low support among Latino voters likely cost Mitt Romney the election, along with his unfortunate self-deportation comment.</p>
<p>No amount of hard evidence can sway conspiracy theorists. If you disagree with them or confront them with hard evidence to disprove their theory, the immediately accuse you propagating disinformation as part of the conspiracy, almost a &#8216;no win&#8217; proposition.</p>
<p>Anonymous e-mails from Hillary Clinton&#8217;s campaign during the Democratic primaries, igniting the birther movement when conspiracy theorists picked up on the issue. Most prominent among birthers is author Jerome Corsi, who makes a living creating conspiracy theories to sell books. Who can ever forget the North American Union conspiracy, which claimed President Bush would merge the U.S., Canada, and Mexico without the approval of Congress? Corsi even claimed there was a new currency, the Amero, but just try to find one. You can buy Corsi&#8217;s book &#8220;The Late Great USA: NAFTA, the North American Union, and the Threat of a Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada&#8221; for a <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Late-Great-USA-American-Threat/dp/B002RAR3TC">penny from Amazon.com</a>. Corsi&#8217;s North American Union is so lacking in facts and ridiculous that Corsi shouldn&#8217;t be taken seriously, but he continues to be a popular author. The more outrageous his conspiracy theories, the more books he sells!</p>
<h2><strong>Is Marco Rubio a natural born citizen?</strong></h2>
<p>Marco Rubio is undoubtedly a natural born citizen. So is Bobby Jindal, and so is John McCain, though John McCain was born on a U.S. military base in Panama. All three were U.S. citizens at birth and therefore are natural born citizens.</p>
<p>At the time our constitution was adopted, citizenship was determined by English Common Law. Birthright citizenship was part of English Common Law, except for children born of slaves, who were considered slaves rather than subjects.</p>
<p>Opponents of birthright citizenship claim the framers of our constitution and authors of the 14th amendment meant something entirely different than what our courts have consistently ruled for over 100 years. The plain language of the 14th amendment is crystal clear, which explains why no court has sided with birthright citizenship opponents. <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv/">Section 1 of the 14th amendment</a> states:</p>
<blockquote><p>All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.</p></blockquote>
<p>Opponents deliberately confuse &#8220;allegiance&#8221; with &#8220;jurisdiction&#8221;, claiming that children born of unauthorized immigrants owe allegiance to their parents&#8217; home nation, not to the U.S., and therefore are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Black&#8217;s law dictionary defines <a href="http://thelawdictionary.org/jurisdiction/">jurisdiction</a> as:</p>
<blockquote><p>The power and authority constitutionally conferred upon (or constitutionally recognized as existing in) a court or judge to pronounce the sentence of the law, or to award the remedies provided by law, upon a state of facts, proved or admitted, referred to the tribunal for decision, and authorized by law to be the subject of investigation or action by that tribunal, and in favor of or against persons (or a res) who present themselves, or who are brought, before the court in some manner sanctioned by law as proper and sufficient.</p></blockquote>
<p>In layman&#8217;s terms, if a court or government can hold you accountable under laws, then you are subject to its jurisdiction. Applying common sense, virtually everyone present in the U.S., regardless of any allegiance to any foreign government, is subject to U.S. jurisdiction. If a non-citizen throws a gum wrapper on the sidewalk in violation of anti-littering laws, they can be given a ticket or arrested. That&#8217;s jurisdiction! If children born of non-citizens were not &#8220;subject to the jurisdiction thereof&#8221; then they would be immune to U.S. courts, could not be sued, fined, deported, etc. The legal status of their parents is irrelevant.</p>
<p>The only exception to birthright citizenship are children born on U.S. soil to foreign leaders, diplomats and their families, who have diplomatic immunity under treaty and international law, and cannot be arrested or sued in U.S. courts, and therefore are not subject to U.S. jurisdiction. If a U.S. born child of a diplomat throws a gum wrapper on the sidewalk in front of a cop and the cop tries to ticket him for littering, they can claim diplomatic immunity under international law and U.S. courts cannot fine him for littering.</p>
<p>Another frequent argument against birthright citizenship is that the 14th amendment was merely intended to ensure that newly freed slaves would be considered citizens and not to grant citizenship to children born of unauthorized immigrants. Its true the purpose of the 14th amendment was to address citizenship of slaves. Under English Common Law at the time the U.S. became a nation, children born of slaves were not considered subjects or citizens, and the 14th amendment was needed to reverse the infamous <a href="http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/llst:@field(DOCID+@lit(llst022div2)):">Dredd Scott decision</a> in which the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that blacks could never become citizens.</p>
<blockquote><p>The doctrine of 1776, that all (white) men &#8220;are created free and equal,&#8221; is universally accepted and made the basis of all our institutions, State and National, and the relations of citizenship&#8211;the rights of the individual&#8211;in short, the <em>status</em> of the dominant race, is thus defined and fixed for ever.</p>
<p>But there have been doubts and uncertainties in regard to the negro. Indeed, many (perhaps most ) American communities have latterly sought to include him in the ranks of citizenship, and force upon him the <em>status</em> of the superior race.</p>
<p>This confusion is now at an end, and the Supreme Court, in the Dred Scott decision, has defined the relations, and fixed the <em>status</em> of the subordinate race <em>forever</em>&#8211;for that decision is in accord with the natural relations of the races, and therefore can never perish. It is based on historical and existing facts, which are indisputable, and it is a necessary, indeed unavoidable inference, from these facts.</p></blockquote>
<p>There is little doubt the purpose of the 14th amendment was to overturn Dredd Scott v. Stanford and ensure that Southern states respected newly freed slaves as citizens. However, <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/36527058/Congressional-Debates-of-the-14th-Amendment">transcripts of the Congressional debate showed that the status of children born of immigrants was vigorously debated</a>. Some members of Congress wanted to exclude children born of Chinese immigrants, but when the vote was taken the 14th amendment passed.</p>
<p>Transcripts of debates in state legislatures that ratified the 14th amendment would no doubt show that citizenship of children born of immigrants was also considered. There is no grand historic misunderstanding! Congress did not intend to exclude the children born of immigrants from birthright citizenship. and a plain reading of the 14th amendment is crystal clear.</p>
<p>Prior to the 14th amendment, English Common law provided for birthright citizenship except for slaves. Upon independence, states passed reception statutes to implement and continue English common law except where it conflicted with state constitutions.</p>
<p>So just what did English Common law say about birthright citizenship when the constitution was adopted? The most authoritative text &#8220;<a href="http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_4_citizenships1.html">An Analysis of the Laws of England</a>&#8221; by William Blackstone, first published in 1765, and reprinted in 1770, 1773, 1774, 1775, 1778 and 1783. An updated version of Blackstone&#8217;s authoritative text was published by Henry John Stephen in 1841, and reprinted until after the Second World War.</p>
<p>Blackstone defined &#8220;natural born subjects&#8221; as those born within the dominions of England. In a monarchy, citizens are called &#8220;subjects&#8221; while in a Republic, &#8220;subjects&#8221; are called &#8220;citizens.&#8221; Americans stopped calling themselves &#8220;subjects&#8221; and began calling themselves &#8220;citizens&#8221;, consistent with the change in form of government from monarchy to republic. The most authoritative source on English Common law for over a century was William Blackstone. <a href="http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_4_citizenships1.html">From William Blackstone (1765), Commentaries 1:354, 357&#8211;58, 361&#8211;62</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The first and most obvious division of the people is into aliens and natural-born subjects. <strong>Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the dominions of the crown of England</strong>, that is, within the ligeance, or as it is generally called, the allegiance of the king; and aliens, such as are born out of it. Allegiance is the tie, or <em>ligamen,</em> which binds the subject to the king, in return for that protection which the king affords the subject. The thing itself, or substantial part of it, is founded in reason and the nature of government; the name and the form are derived to us from our Gothic ancestors.</p>
<p>Allegiance, both express and implied, is however distinguished by the law into two sorts or species, the one natural, the other local; the former being also perpetual, the latter temporary. <strong>Natural allegiance is such as is due from all men born within the king&#8217;s dominions immediately upon their birth.</strong> For, immediately upon their birth, they are under the king&#8217;s protection; at a time too, when (during their infancy) they are incapable of protecting themselves. Natural allegiance is therefore a debt of gratitude; which cannot be forfeited, cancelled, or altered, by any change of time, place, or circumstance, nor by any thing but the united concurrence of the legislature. An Englishman who removes to France, or to China, owes the same allegiance to the king of England there as at home, and twenty years hence as well as now. For it is a principle of universal law, that the natural-born subject of one prince cannot by any act of his own, no, not by swearing allegiance to another, put off or discharge his natural allegiance to the former: for this natural allegiance was intrinsic, and primitive, and antecedent to the other; and cannot be devested without the concurrent act of that prince to whom it was first due&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>The children of aliens, born here in England, are, generally speaking, natural-born subjects, and entitled to all the privileges of such. </strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Since Obama&#8217;s election, another dimension to the birthright citizenship debate emerged, claiming that one is not a &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; unless both parents were citizens.  Article Two of our constitution requires that our president be a &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; but does not define that term:</p>
<blockquote><p>No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States</p></blockquote>
<p>A <a href="http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42097.pdf">2011 report prepared by the Congressional Research Office</a> concludes:</p>
<blockquote><p>The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term “natural born” citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “by birth” or “at birth,” either by being born “in” the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship “at birth.” Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an “alien” required to go through the legal process of “naturalization” to become a U.S. citizen.</p></blockquote>
<p>This conclusion is entirely consistent with <a href="http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_4_citizenships1.html">Blackstone&#8217;s</a> commentary on English common law:</p>
<blockquote><p>The children of aliens, born here in England, are, generally speaking, natural-born subjects, and entitled to all the privileges of such.</p></blockquote>
<p>Blackstone also notes that children born abroad of diplomats are still considered natural born subjects:</p>
<blockquote><p>Yet the children of the king&#8217;s embassadors born abroad were <strong>always held to be natural subjects</strong>: for as the father, though in a foreign country, owes not even a local allegiance to the prince to whom he is sent; so, with regard to the son also, he was held (by a kind of <em>postliminium</em>) to be born under the king of England&#8217;s allegiance, represented by his father, the embassador. To encourage also foreign commerce, it was enacted by statute 25 Edw. III. st. 2. that <strong>all children born abroad, provided <em>both</em> their parents were at the time of the birth in allegiance to the king, and the mother had passed the seas by her husband&#8217;s consent, might inherit as if born in England</strong>: and accordingly it hath been so adjudged in behalf of merchants. But by several more modern statutes these restrictions are still farther taken off: so that all children, born out of the king&#8217;s ligeance, whose <em>fathers</em> were natural-born subjects, are now natural-born subjects themselves, to all intents and purposes, without any exception; unless their said fathers were attainted, or banished beyond sea, for high treason; or were then in the service of a prince at enmity with Great Britain.</p></blockquote>
<p>As per Blackstone&#8217;s commentary, Americans such as John McCain, who was born of American citizen parents on a U.S. military base in Panama, who would have been considered a natural born subject of England under English common law. McCain was born in Panama on a U.S. military base, and thus subject to U.S. jurisdiction when he was born.</p>
<p>Ditto for Marco Rubio, whose parents were permanent residents of the U.S. when he was born. No doubt birthers will seek to delegitimize Marco Rubio&#8217;s citizenship by claiming one or both parents weren&#8217;t here legally, but it&#8217;s clear the legal status of one&#8217;s parents isn&#8217;t relevant to the child&#8217;s legal status. Ditto for Bobby Jindal, whose parents were not yet permanent residents when Bobby Jindal was born.</p>
<p>The  Congressional Research Service also notes:</p>
<blockquote><p>The term “natural born” citizen is not defined in the Constitution, and there is no discussion of the  term evident in the notes of the Federal Convention of 1787. The use of the phrase in the Constitution may have derived from a suggestion in a letter from John Jay to George Washington during the Convention expressing concern about having the office of Commander-in-Chief “devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen,” as there were fears at that time about wealthy European aristocracy or royalty coming to America, gaining citizenship, and then buying and scheming their way to the presidency without long-standing loyalty to the nation. At the time of  independence, and <strong>at the time of the framing of the Constitution, the term “natural born” with respect to citizenship was in use for many years in the American colonies, and then in the states, from British common law and legal usage. Under the common law principle of jus soli (law of the soil), persons born on English soil, even of two alien parents, were “natural born” subjects and, as noted by the Supreme Court, this “same rule” was applicable in the American colonies and “in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution &#8230;”</strong> with respect to citizens. In textual constitutional analysis, it is understood that terms used but not defined in the document must, as explained by the Supreme Court, <strong>“be read in light of British common law” since the Constitution is “framed in the language of the English common law.”</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>So why on Earth are some groups trying to rewrite hundreds of years of history and legal precedent? Clearly the birther movement is behind the effort to redefine &#8216;natural born citizen&#8217; to de-legitimize President Obama, who clearly is a natural born citizen. There&#8217;s also a subliminal message that Obama &#8216;is not one of us.&#8217;</p>
<p>Clearly there are also those who do not like Marco Rubio because he is Hispanic and the son of immigrants. By raising the issue of &#8216;natural born citizens&#8217; some hope to derail any chance that Marco Rubio might become a presidential candidate.</p>
<p>With regards to immigration, there is clearly an effort afoot to generate hostility to groups that are perceived either as immigrants or recent offspring of immigrants. It&#8217;s also become acceptable in many quarters to hate unauthorized immigrants, blaming them for a range of social problems. By making an issue of birthright citizenship, now it becomes OK to also hate citizens who are perceived as benefiting from birthright citizenship. Most Hispanics are either immigrants themselves, or 1-2 generations removed, and sadly many Americans view all Hispanics as either unauthorized immigrants or &#8216;fake citizens&#8217; who are citizens due to &#8216;misinterpretation&#8217; of that pesky 14th amendment.</p>
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<p>by Bob Quasius, founder and president of Cafe Con Leche Republicans (<a href="http://cafeconlecherepublicans.com/is-marco-rubio-a-natural-born-citizen">original link</a>)</p>
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		<title>Obama Birth Certificate Investigation Lacks Credibility</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Bob Quasius By now, unless someone has lived in a cave the last four years, everyone has heard of the controversy about Obama&#8217;s birth certificate. Just last week, Sheriff Joe Arpaio announced his &#8220;volunteer posse&#8221; had concluded its investigation of Obama&#8217;s birth certificate and selective service registration document. If we take the investigative results [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by Bob Quasius</p>
<p>By now, unless someone has lived in a cave the last four years, everyone has heard of the controversy about Obama&#8217;s birth certificate. Just last week, Sheriff Joe Arpaio announced his &#8220;volunteer posse&#8221; had concluded its investigation of Obama&#8217;s birth certificate and selective service registration document. If we take the investigative results at face value, yes indeed there is something fishy about Obama&#8217;s documents. As an electrical engineer by profession, I have a background in imaging, signal processing, etc. and I see the issues with Obama&#8217;s documents too, assuming the evidence presented itself has not been faked. Clearly there are questions to be answered, and answers to be questioned.</p>
<p>I am not a fan of Obama. In fact, I think Obama is the worst president in modern U.S. history, surpassing even Jimmy Carter. Obama is &#8216;Jimmy Carter on steroids&#8217; and we need to rid ourselves of Obama, and just as Jimmy Carter was followed by Ronald Reagan, we need a new president to get this nation back on track. Let&#8217;s hope for our nation&#8217;s sake our next president will be like &#8216;Ronald Reagan on steroids.&#8217;</p>
<p>As much as I dislike Obama and would like to see him out of the oval office, I cannot give the recent Obama birth certificate controversy much credibility because the investigation was conducted under the auspices of Joe Arpaio. <a href="http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/01/07/20100107joe-arpaio-grand-jury.html">Joe Arpaio has a lengthy history of launching politically motivated investigations of his political enemies. Among Arpaio&#8217;s victims are journalists, judges, members of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, and community leaders, among others</a>. </p>
<p>For years, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGXEH9bxw4">if you criticized Joe Arpaio you soon found yourself on the wrong end of criminal investigations</a>. <a href="http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/12/joe_arpaios_lawyer_grilled_by.php">In one case, a journalist published a story, and then unmarked vehicles with Mexican license plates came to his home in the middle of the night to arrest him for a minor misdemeanor, which was quickly dismissed by a judge, and clearly was intended to intimidate the journalist</a>. In my opinion, Arpaio is a serial power abuser, with no respect whatsoever for our constitution, part of the &#8216;rule of law&#8217; governing this nation.</p>
<p>Often arrests of Arpaio critics were quickly dismissed by judges as baseless, and in many cases Arpaio and his partner, former Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas, were unable to convince grand juries to indict. Many criminal law attorneys will tell you that generally speaking, prosecutors can get most grand juries to indict even a &#8216;ham sandwich.&#8217; It&#8217;s rare that grand juries fail to indict, yet many grand juries saw right through the flimsiness of cases against Arpaio critics. </p>
<p>As a consequence of these politically motivated and baseless prosecutions, Maricopa County taxpayers may end up paying tens of millions in damages to victims of malicious prosecutions. During the last years of the Bush administration, the DOJ launched an investigation into these alleged abuses of power, and a grand jury has been empaneled. Andrew Thomas, the former Maricopa County Attorney is in deep trouble, and may well lose his law license for his role in this scheme. Yes, Joe Arpaio may himself be indicted for abusing his power under color of law. Clearly, any investigation of Arpaio critics or political enemies conducted under the auspices of Joe Arpaio is immediately clouded by questions about the integrity of the investigation.</p>
<p>Now, it has emerged that Mike Zullo, the lead investigator from Arpaio&#8217;s &#8220;volunteer posse&#8221;, has <a href="http://www.azfamily.com/news/MCSO-investigator-selling-birther-investigation-online-141270873.html">co-authored a book with Jerome Corsi and will split the profits with Corsi</a>. Question: if the investigator had concluded Obama&#8217;s documents were authentic, would he be able to sell a book? I doubt it. The fact that Mr. Zullo is profiting off of his investigation naturally leads us to question his credibility as well.</p>
<p>Jerome Corsi has written extensively about various conspiracy theories, for example Corsi authored &#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Late-Great-U-S-Coming-Merger/dp/0979045142">The Late Great U.S.A.: The Coming Merger With Mexico and Canada</a>&#8220;, claiming the Bush administration was plotting a &#8220;North American Union&#8221; that would merge Mexico, Canada, and the U.S., without ever obtaining the approval of Congress, even establishing a European style currency to be known as the &#8220;amero.&#8221; This is one of the most absurd conspiracy theories I have ever heard, very similar to another conspiracy theory called &#8220;reconquista&#8221;, which holds that undocumented immigrants come to the U.S. to procreate, and eventually create Hispanic majorities in the Southwest and return the Southwest to Mexico. Of course, the &#8220;reconquista&#8221; theory makes the ridiculous assumption that Mexican-American immigrants and their offspring never assimilate and want to be part of the very nation they fled in search of a better life. Corsi provided many of the materials for the investigation. I don&#8217;t find Corsi to be a credible individual, as he writes sensational books making a wide range of claims, some of which are not very credible.</p>
<p>I viewed evidence that Obama&#8217;s documents were forged, which certainly raises valid questions, assuming the evidence presented itself is not fake. In my opinion, there should be an investigation, but NOT by Arpaio or anyone connected with Arpaio. A DOJ investigation will never happen during Obama&#8217;s presidency, since our U.S. Attorney General works for Obama, and federal law no longer provides for independent special counsels as in the past. This investigation into whether any state laws were violated by the Obama campaign should be performed by Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne and the state police, or by another sheriff, which should NOT be Paul Babeu, who also lacks credibility.</p>
<p><a href="http://cafeconlecherepublicans.com/obama-birth-certificate-investigation-lacks-credibility">Original posting</a></p>
<p>(note: this blog, as with all blog postings with a byline, is my personal opinion, and not the official position of Cafe Con Leche Republicans)</p>
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