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		<title>Comment on Going (to the) Rogue by Mark B. Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark B. Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You trickster. I thought this was going to be about Sarah &quot;Short Shorts&quot; Palin.
 
She needs to do a book signing there. She can call it ironical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You trickster. I thought this was going to be about Sarah &#8220;Short Shorts&#8221; Palin.<br />
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She needs to do a book signing there. She can call it ironical.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Health Care Debate And The Cost Of War by tiponeill</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/dataport/2009/11/20/the-health-care-debate-and-the-cost-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-752</link>
		<dc:creator>tiponeill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billions for Bombs, we can&#039;t afford your penicllin - the Republican mantra.
&quot;War is God&#039;s way of teaching Americans geography.&quot;   
 —        &lt;a title=&quot;view all quotes by Ambrose Bierce&quot; href=&quot;http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/14403.Ambrose_Bierce&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ambrose Bierce&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billions for Bombs, we can&#8217;t afford your penicllin &#8211; the Republican mantra.<br />
&#8220;War is God&#8217;s way of teaching Americans geography.&#8221;<br />
 —        <a title="view all quotes by Ambrose Bierce" href="http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/14403.Ambrose_Bierce" rel="nofollow">Ambrose Bierce</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Health Care Debate And The Cost Of War by Bjay</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/dataport/2009/11/20/the-health-care-debate-and-the-cost-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-751</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya, it all blows my mind.  The wars will still cost us even after we get out, in more ways than one.
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, it all blows my mind.  The wars will still cost us even after we get out, in more ways than one.<br />
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		<title>Comment on Former Tucson Mayor George Miller: Six Are Not Enough. by seanbean</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/dataport/2009/08/07/former-tucson-mayor-george-miller-six-are-not-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-733</link>
		<dc:creator>seanbean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think  tucson city government should be dissolved... what do they call it back east? ... oh yeah, unincorporated... back into the county...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think  tucson city government should be dissolved&#8230; what do they call it back east? &#8230; oh yeah, unincorporated&#8230; back into the county&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unhealthy America&#8217;s Inferior Health Care by Dave Atlas</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/dataport/2009/11/08/unhealthy-americas-inferior-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-726</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Atlas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are on the verge of Congress and the President changing our existing health care system with one that gives the government a new, larger and and somewhat yet to be determined role in the overall healthcare plans of individuals.  

We are already sure there will be confusion and anxiety from the change.  Change always cause this, but what level of discomfort will we see?

Some people who could not get healthcare before will now be able to obtain it although it may well be that many of these same folks will not be able to afford it.  Some folks who would have lost their coverage for some current reason may be able to keep their coverage with these changes.  This is seen as a good thing and I agree that insurance companies may deserve more regulation on these points.

However, I also predict that there will continue to be many people with no coverage and no willingness to pay for it, even if it is mandatory.  These people do not squeeze well when commanded to &lt;strong&gt;cough&lt;/strong&gt; up fees....  Still , they wil cough and get sick and we all know they will get services paid for by other people who do pay up.

Basic healthcare costs may or may not fall.  The safe bet is that people who have decent and costly coverage now which works for them will choose to keep it and see absolutely no savings, and then continued increases in monthly costs as time goes by.  ALL taxpayers will pay more and more and more, until there is just not much money left to pay and the government will resort to the printing press.  If sickness doesn&#039;t get you, good old inflation will.  It is inevitable.

Right now, the &quot;best healthcare in the world&quot; is rationed by limited coverage policies and high costs for exotic services.  With the Federal plan, we will see rationing of services based on age, current health, bureaucratic involvement and then have to still deal with coverage issues, and costs of services.  Anyone who believes costs will miraculously go away because the government has come to our rescue is already on or in need of drugs.  

I personally hope to keep my excellent and high cost insurance until I get to Medicare in a few years and then to keep a good supplement policy in force.  I do want all Americans to get fair treatment and not to be discriminated against.  Maybe the new plan will make some inequities leave the system, but it will never, ever be fair.  The world is not a fair place and we can&#039;t expect it from a government run health plan.  It may become  an acceptable or even a good plan in time, but rushing it to the President&#039;s signature before the consequences are reasonably examined sounds like trouble to me.

Do nothing and more and more families and individuals will no longer be able to afford insurance policies for health coverage.  They will drop into the ever growing basket of the uninsured.  This is a terrible way to ration healthcare, too.  We need thorough and complete analysis of this problem BEFORE we get new laws and unforeseen problems.  Even if it takes another 6 months or a year, let the process be complete, fair and less politicized.  In the long run, we&#039;ll all be better off.

In the end, not everyone will have equal health coverage.  There will be some who have premium plans and influential friends.  There will be those who can afford to travel abroad to get services which are in short supply here.  Our system will become more like other systems around the world where there may be more equity, but not necessarily a utopian one.  It may become a truly better overall system than we currently live with, but there are many ways for these grand plans to fail.  Patience and caution at the expense of political promises may be a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are on the verge of Congress and the President changing our existing health care system with one that gives the government a new, larger and and somewhat yet to be determined role in the overall healthcare plans of individuals.  </p>
<p>We are already sure there will be confusion and anxiety from the change.  Change always cause this, but what level of discomfort will we see?</p>
<p>Some people who could not get healthcare before will now be able to obtain it although it may well be that many of these same folks will not be able to afford it.  Some folks who would have lost their coverage for some current reason may be able to keep their coverage with these changes.  This is seen as a good thing and I agree that insurance companies may deserve more regulation on these points.</p>
<p>However, I also predict that there will continue to be many people with no coverage and no willingness to pay for it, even if it is mandatory.  These people do not squeeze well when commanded to <strong>cough</strong> up fees&#8230;.  Still , they wil cough and get sick and we all know they will get services paid for by other people who do pay up.</p>
<p>Basic healthcare costs may or may not fall.  The safe bet is that people who have decent and costly coverage now which works for them will choose to keep it and see absolutely no savings, and then continued increases in monthly costs as time goes by.  ALL taxpayers will pay more and more and more, until there is just not much money left to pay and the government will resort to the printing press.  If sickness doesn&#8217;t get you, good old inflation will.  It is inevitable.</p>
<p>Right now, the &#8220;best healthcare in the world&#8221; is rationed by limited coverage policies and high costs for exotic services.  With the Federal plan, we will see rationing of services based on age, current health, bureaucratic involvement and then have to still deal with coverage issues, and costs of services.  Anyone who believes costs will miraculously go away because the government has come to our rescue is already on or in need of drugs.  </p>
<p>I personally hope to keep my excellent and high cost insurance until I get to Medicare in a few years and then to keep a good supplement policy in force.  I do want all Americans to get fair treatment and not to be discriminated against.  Maybe the new plan will make some inequities leave the system, but it will never, ever be fair.  The world is not a fair place and we can&#8217;t expect it from a government run health plan.  It may become  an acceptable or even a good plan in time, but rushing it to the President&#8217;s signature before the consequences are reasonably examined sounds like trouble to me.</p>
<p>Do nothing and more and more families and individuals will no longer be able to afford insurance policies for health coverage.  They will drop into the ever growing basket of the uninsured.  This is a terrible way to ration healthcare, too.  We need thorough and complete analysis of this problem BEFORE we get new laws and unforeseen problems.  Even if it takes another 6 months or a year, let the process be complete, fair and less politicized.  In the long run, we&#8217;ll all be better off.</p>
<p>In the end, not everyone will have equal health coverage.  There will be some who have premium plans and influential friends.  There will be those who can afford to travel abroad to get services which are in short supply here.  Our system will become more like other systems around the world where there may be more equity, but not necessarily a utopian one.  It may become a truly better overall system than we currently live with, but there are many ways for these grand plans to fail.  Patience and caution at the expense of political promises may be a good thing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Star to Charge 39 Bucks a Year for TV Listings by Max Load</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Load</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone has their hand out.  The reason you are now being asked to pay is because the service/provider that they had been getting listings from likely hiked *their* prices to the point it was economically infeasible, given the razor thin profit margins most dailies now operate from, to continue giving it away.
Another paper I know of switched days,  from Sunday to Saturday, and only made the listings available by request to their subscribers.  Don&#039;t know if that was &quot;shoot yerself in the foot move&quot; or not, it&#039;s too early to tell.
Chalk it up to a changing world, and hope that&#039;s the worst thing we see before 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone has their hand out.  The reason you are now being asked to pay is because the service/provider that they had been getting listings from likely hiked *their* prices to the point it was economically infeasible, given the razor thin profit margins most dailies now operate from, to continue giving it away.<br />
Another paper I know of switched days,  from Sunday to Saturday, and only made the listings available by request to their subscribers.  Don&#8217;t know if that was &#8220;shoot yerself in the foot move&#8221; or not, it&#8217;s too early to tell.<br />
Chalk it up to a changing world, and hope that&#8217;s the worst thing we see before 2012.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Star to Charge 39 Bucks a Year for TV Listings by Downtown Denizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Downtown Denizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, I&#039;ve been trying to use the Star&#039;s former TV listing for months. I have Direct TV and the cable movie times are wrong... 100 percent of the time. Why would I pay EXTRA for something that&#039;s inaccurate?

I don&#039;t watch TV enough to care. I&#039;ll just flip around and if I see something I like, I&#039;ll stop for a bit.

Good luck, Lee Enterprises.

PS == has the &quot;new&quot; Tucson Citizen commented on this past week&#039;s buyouts and upcoming reorganization at the Star?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, I&#8217;ve been trying to use the Star&#8217;s former TV listing for months. I have Direct TV and the cable movie times are wrong&#8230; 100 percent of the time. Why would I pay EXTRA for something that&#8217;s inaccurate?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t watch TV enough to care. I&#8217;ll just flip around and if I see something I like, I&#8217;ll stop for a bit.</p>
<p>Good luck, Lee Enterprises.</p>
<p>PS == has the &#8220;new&#8221; Tucson Citizen commented on this past week&#8217;s buyouts and upcoming reorganization at the Star?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Star to Charge 39 Bucks a Year for TV Listings by tiponeill</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/dataport/2009/11/08/star-to-charge-39-bucks-a-year-for-tv-listings/comment-page-1/#comment-717</link>
		<dc:creator>tiponeill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you subscribe for TV listings when they are online for free ?
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you subscribe for TV listings when they are online for free ?<br />
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		<title>Comment on Star to Charge 39 Bucks a Year for TV Listings by Tom Garrett</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/dataport/2009/11/08/star-to-charge-39-bucks-a-year-for-tv-listings/comment-page-1/#comment-716</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too searched the Sunday paper for the TV section. I assumed that it was inadvertantly omitted. Now I know the truth. Thank you. But I will seriously consider cancelling my subscription.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too searched the Sunday paper for the TV section. I assumed that it was inadvertantly omitted. Now I know the truth. Thank you. But I will seriously consider cancelling my subscription.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Star to Charge 39 Bucks a Year for TV Listings by Silence Dogood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silence Dogood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a Star subscriber continuously for 35 years. I wondered why I didn&#039;t get a TV Week today. I nearly chose not to renew the last time because the paper has gone seriously down hill. Their new strategy to rip off their loyal subscribers and further devalue the product will result in the cancellation of my subscription. Keep it up Lee Enterprises! Soon you will become known as an environmental company for saving all those trees that won&#039;t be needed to produce your third rate product anymore, because nobody will want it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a Star subscriber continuously for 35 years. I wondered why I didn&#8217;t get a TV Week today. I nearly chose not to renew the last time because the paper has gone seriously down hill. Their new strategy to rip off their loyal subscribers and further devalue the product will result in the cancellation of my subscription. Keep it up Lee Enterprises! Soon you will become known as an environmental company for saving all those trees that won&#8217;t be needed to produce your third rate product anymore, because nobody will want it.</p>
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