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Give ‘em hell, Andy! (As in, Andrew Breitbart)

by on Jul. 22, 2010, under Uncategorized

Tucson has Jim Kelley; the rest of the conservative world has Andrew Breitbart.  This conservative says YEE-HA to that!

To be sure, Breitbart is not every conservative’s cup of tea.  Some conservatives, in fact, are downright uncomfortable with the bombastic conservative activist who runs Big Hollywood, Big Government, Big Peace, Big Journalism and Breitbart TV.

You have to admit, though—the man not only knows how to throw a rock in a political fight; he hits his targets. Ask ACORN.  Or the NAACP.

And I must admit—I’m loving it!  You see, I remember when being a “racist” was a horrible thing to be.  Now, thanks to the NAACP, it’s another word for “conservative.”  And, we’re all worse off for that.

I’m sure I’m not the only conservative who feels that the NAACP, whose agents gave us the James Byrd ad just ten years ago, has been way too willing to loan the heroic legacy of the civil rights movement to the Democratic Party for political purposes.

You think I’m exaggerating?  Apparently Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent magazine thinks that legacy is his to use as he pleases: 

In one instance, Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.

Spencer Ackerman is as white as I am. What makes him think he can use the ephithet “racist” against his political opponents so casually? Oh yeah…he’s a liberal. As, apparently, is the NAACP.

I wonder what (or who) makes Ackerman think he can use that kind of language…

More important, what happens when words that really DO describe bad things—like racism—lose their potency because they’ve been misused for so long?

From Fred Barnes, one of Ackerman’s nominees for the Racist Du Jour: (Emphasis added):

What was particularly pathetic about the scheme to smear Mr. Obama’s critics was labeling them as racists. The accusation has been made so frequently in recent years, without evidence to back it up, that it has little effect. It’s now the last refuge of liberal scoundrels.

This reminds me of the debate over flying the Confederate flag.  No, really.

Born in Maryland, raised in Virginia, I know that the Stars and Bars has positive meanings for many people.  It evokes feeling of regional pride, pride in the courage of one’s ancestors, and a sense of rebellion that’s always been part of the American spirit.

Neverthless, it’s a lot harder to defend flying the Stars and Bars publicly nowadays, because “yahoos” took control of it in the 20th century.  Those “yahoos” were the KKK and other racists groups that opposed the civil rights movement.  They took it as their symbol.

“Yahoos” isn’t my word; it’s Shelby Foote’s.  Foote, the author of an iconic three-part history of the Civil War and one of the lead commentators in Ken Burn’s also-iconic documentary on the Civil War, lamented—but acknowledged—the fact that an important symbol of America’s Southern heritage had been forever stained, because it hadn’t been defended from misuse:

The flag is a symbol my great grandfather fought under and in defense of. I am for flying it anywhere anybody wants to fly it. I do know perfectly well what pain it causes my black friends, but I think that pain is not necessary if they would read the confederate constitution and knew what the confederacy really stood for. This country has two grievous sins on its hands. One of them is slavery – whether we’ll ever be cured of it, I don’t know. The other one is emancipation – they told 4 million people, you’re free, hit the road, and they drifted back into a form of peonage that in some ways is worse than slavery. These things have got to be understood before they’re condemned. They’re condemned on the face of it because they take that flag to represent what those yahoos represent as – in their protest against civil rights things. But the people who knew what that flag really stood for should have stopped those yahoos from using it as a symbol of what they stood for. But we didn’t – and now you had this problem of the confederate flag being identified as sort of a roughneck thing, which it is not.

What happens when the word “racist” becomes identified as sort of a liberal insult to those who disagree with them? 

(Note: I posted Foote’s full quote, to ensure that nothing gets taken out of context; I bold-faced the parts of his quote that, IMO, are key to the point I’m making).



  • leftfield

    You’re going to acclaim someone who defamed an innocent person through the use of deception?  I certainly hope Ms Sherrod has good legal representation. 

    • aesthete

      Actually, his video and presentation were not deceptive. First of all, Ms. Sherrod Brown was not the story, the audience’s disturbing reaction to the part of her story where she was yet unreformed was. It would be the equivalent of me clapping at the part of a former racist judge’s biopic where he wrongly convicts a black. Secondly, even in her retelling of the story, she says (in the present tense) that she eventually reformed and sent him to “one of his own kind” (!!!), indicating that her racist attitude remains, even if her humanity won out this time. Indeed, her entire career has been about racial grandstanding, from suing her (until recently) employer for racial discrimination before working for them, to her recent statement to Pres. Obama, which in effect boiled down to “Pres. Obama isn’t really black, and I, as a true black, have some things I could tell him”. In short, the WH’s reaction, even if it wasn’t the one the video was aiming for, was entirely appropriate.

    • Don

      Explain how Breitbart attempted to “deceive.”  That implies he edited the tape himself—which he says he didn’t do.

      I am acclaiming a person who manages to make the leftists amongst us soil themselves, again and again.

      • leftfield

        Don, if you listen to the full unedited tape, it should be clear to you or anyone that Breibart took a few minutes out of a 43 minute speech and completely isolated the comments from the context within which they were made.  In fact, even the full extent of the story about the farmer being related to the audience was not included.  Most relevantly, what Ms Sherrod learned from the experience and also the lengths that she did go to in order to help this farmer.  

        There really is no other logical conclusion other than that Breibart spent hours going over every video tape of black people he could find in order to prove his point.  Failing that, he manufactured specious “proof” and intended to mislead.   

        • Don

          Then, why did the NAACP and White House throw her under the bus so quickly? 

          There really is no other logical conclusion other than that Breibart spent hours going over every video tape of black people he could find in order to prove his point.  Failing that, he manufactured specious “proof” and intended to mislead.  

          Leftfield, I am confident that you really thing that there really IS no other logical conclusion besides the one you’ve come to.  Which is why I continue to think you’re harmless.   

          • leftfield

            Good question.  The larger context of that question is why the liberal left continues to allow the right wing to frame the debate and generate the attacks while the left just responds to the attacks.  It should be just as easy to artfully edit tapes of reactionaries and send in moles to join the Tea Party Movement.  But, they just don’t do it. 

            • aesthete

              Journolist’s progressive membership colluding to present a series of talking points, and shift the debate while maintaining their exterior objective (or at least, honest) personas would seem to belie your baseless assertion.

  • NewsJunkie

    It’s disgusting that there are people who support the despicable, deceitful actions of Andrew Breitbart who is a proven outright liar in two high profile cases: ACORN & Sherrod.  If he had a case on the actual facts, that’s one thing. Everyone has the right to their opinion but not to make up facts.  Ends do NOT justify the means.

  • mean

    confederate flag as in your side LOST.
    Fly it anywhere you want.  racist symbol? probably
    symbol of losers? definitely
    It does make soft toilet paper.
    andys’ next expose: there’s lots of fat white people at teabagger gatherings.
    really!
     

  • Mark

    The voice of Tucson, I hope not.  This country and people cannot live on the LIES that the conservatives continue to tell and publish.  

  • Aaron

    This video has already proven to be a heavily edited lie, and the farmer in question actually had the farm saved by Sherrod.  You should be standing up against these lies instead of pushing them.  Brietbart has zero credibility, especially after this.  If you support him after seeing what the facts truly are, then how can we say you have any credibility?

    • Don

      Aaron, I could care less if you don’t think I have credibility…and I’m pretty sure Breitbart doesn’t care much about your opinion of him either.

      How was the video a “lie?”  Yes, the video cut out the parts of Ms. Sherrod’s speech that were favorable to her—but no one changed her words, to make her come off as saying things she didn’t actually say.  And, Breitbart didn’t do the editing; he just ran what someone sent him.

      • leftfield

        I guess that makes the missing minutes of the Nixon tapes irrelevant.  Right, Don?  No attempt at deception there! No siree!

        • Don

          Left, I’m sorry, but G. Gordon Liddy has just told me not to respond to you.  I’m sure you’ll understand.

  • http://www.facebook.com/david.abie.morales three-sonorans

    Does Jim Kelley really want to be compared to the guy who smeared Sherrod into losing her job unfairly?

    • http://thechollajumps.com Jim Kelley

      No.

      • Don

        Jim, I’m intrigued by your response—please clarify.  Why don’t you want to be compared to Andrew Breitbart here?

        • http://thechollajumps.com Jim Kelley

          My overinflated ego of course. I want to be one of a kind. LOL! Don I am flattered. I was answering 3 Sonorans. I let peoples words and actions smear themselves. I thought the Sherrod thing was just weird. I do my best to keep things in context. I think too much before and after was kept out for it to be fair. The result is an attack on Andrew instead of the focus being on the perceived racism of Ms Sherrods behavior.
          As media is in a reinvention process just as radio and television re defined print journalism, our efforts as “journalists” will be critiqued, villified, and changed over time and use.
          I think we are all still feeling our way thorugh it all. It is a Brave New World and INFOSPEAK is here.  I know I have mixed two metaphors, but appropriate for the discussion.

    • Don

      who smeared Sherrod into losing her job unfairly?

      Three Sonorans is on to something here—Andrew Breitbart can do the Jedhi Mind Trick!

      He used his awesome mental powers to make all those people who attended that NAACP dinner—to include the president of the NAACP itself!—forget all the wonderful things that Sherrod said to them in that speech, the things we’re now hearing on the unedited video. 

      That explains why, when the original video aired, the NAACP quickly threw Ms. Sherrod under the bus.  Breitbart’s power made them forget things they must have heard, because they were sitting there when Sherrod said them!

      Breitbart must also have used his powers on the Agriculture Secretary and the White House.

  • sethers

    All of the comments thus far have taken the words right out of my…fingertips…

  • vegasvic

    How about Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer apologizing for calling health care protesters “un-American”; and Harry Reid for comparing opposition to Obamacare to opposition to ending slavery; and Sheldon Whitehouse for invoking Kristallnacht and comparing health care opponents to white supremacists; and Alan Grayson and his groupies for saying Republicans wanted patients to die; and the Southern Poverty Law Center for serving as a tool of the Democratic Party by branding legitimate political opposition as racist.

    • sethers

      All of the things you cite are debatable arguments against legitimate political opponents. Breitbart knowingly posted a falsified video in order to defame an innocent person. I don’t think the circumstances are comparable. Besides, at least Pelosi and Hoyer apologized. Breitbart continues to stand by his outright dishonest defamation of a good person. It is one thing to make ridiculous claims against a political opponent and entirely different thing to post supposedly factual information about a person one doesn’t even have a professional conflict with in order to push a fringe political position. In other words Breitbart should pick on someone his own size next time.

      • aesthete

        No, they’re not. Branding wide swathes of individuals as racist and generally wicked people without proof is not a “debatable argument”, it’s a cheap ploy to one’s political base at the expense of one’s humanity and decency.

        • sethers

          Even if your point is accurate (which is debatable), it still isn’t the same as ruining someones career and reputation with a highly altered video.

          • aesthete

            My point isn’t debatable, and is accurate. There is no way for an argument which assumes hidden knowledge of the motives of vast swathes of people to be a solid, much less debatable or defensible, one. That holds true for anyone, left or right. Stated intentions and actions are fair game; fervent imputation of motivation where there is no evidence, not so much.
            If I believed that the presentation of the video was fraudulent, I would say so. I don’t: Sherrod was a racist, and judging by prior actions, and recent statements, has been one throughout her career. The fact that her basic humanity shone through in the particular story she was telling (despite the fact that her racism remains intact even through her recounting) doesn’t erase that, and the White House made the right decision in their firing of her. As a taxpayer, I see no reason that I should support such behavior, even if Sherrod’s behavior was tangential to Breitbart’s point.

            • leftfield

              Faced with the choice between changing one’s mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.- Galbraith

              • Don

                How do you tell a communist?  Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin.  And how do you tell an anti-Communist?  It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

                Ronald Reagan

            • leftfield

              There is no way for an argument which assumes hidden knowledge of the motives of vast swathes of people to be a solid, much less debatable or defensible, one.

              If this is also true for the individual as well as “vast swaths”, and since I cannot know Mr. Briebart’s intentions, I must hold him blameless, even though, regardless of intention, his actions caused harm to an innocent person? 

              Branding wide swathes of individuals as racist and generally wicked people without proof is not a “debatable argument”, it’s a cheap ploy to one’s political base at the expense of one’s humanity and decency.

              After this argument, you go on to say:  ”Sherrod was a racist…” without offering proof.  How’s your own humanity and decency holding up?

              As to Mr. Breibart, I will confess that, to me, any evidence of the holding of conservative philosophy is evidence of a tolerance for evil and injustice.  Thus, I have no qualms about assuming the worst about his intentions, since his actions are “fair game” and his actions label him as a defender of an inhuman philosophy.

              • Don

                As to Mr. Breibart, I will confess that, to me, any evidence of the holding of conservative philosophy is evidence of a tolerance for evil and injustice. 

                I give you credit for admitting what we’ve all figured out for ourselves, a long time ago.

                Fortunately for all of us, and all of the world, conservatism and its heroes—-like, say, Ronald Reagan—have done heroic work pushing back the misery created by your fellow communists worldwide.

              • aesthete

                “If this is also true for the individual as well as “vast swaths”, and since I cannot know Mr. Briebart’s intentions, I must hold him blameless, even though, regardless of intention, his actions caused harm to an innocent person?”

                No. “Blame” is not dependent on motivation, but rather, on objective shirking of responsibility to oneself or others. I don’t think that Breitbart shirked his responsibilities, myself, but even if I thought he was to blame, it would be wrong for me to impute motivations onto him that would be convenient for my case and my ends. Example: As a conservative, it will not surprise you to learn that I hold Pres Obama responsible for many of the negative aspects of the state of affairs today. (I also hold Bush responsible for much of it, but that’s another, potentially all-caps, post.) It would, nonetheless, be wrong for me to ascribe wrongful motivation to all of his actions without proof of said motivation.

                “After this argument, you go on to say:  ”Sherrod was a racist…” without offering proof.  How’s your own humanity and decency holding up?”

                I assumed that Sherrod’s statements after her firing, and statements she made in the video, were common knowledge. I can post statements that lend to my conclusion, if you would like.

                “As to Mr. Breibart, I will confess that, to me, any evidence of the holding of conservative philosophy is evidence of a tolerance for evil and injustice.”

                I guess I don’t have anything to say to this except that I am glad that I don’t ascribe inherent evil to every liberal I know. (Sure would make Tucson a hard place to live in!) I would posit, however, that your definition of evil would likely be different from my own, for you to cast your lot with socialism and its evils as opposed to capitalism and its relative successes, both moral and economic. Have a nice Sunday!

  • http://bmanwar9@hotmail.com Bob

    you’re soooo dumb.

    • Don

      At least I know how to spell the word “so” and properly capitalize a sentence.

      • sethers

        Nice, comeback with a spelling lesson.

  • ralfie

    Breitbart didn’t fire anybody. Obama did. He already apologized for his stupidity.

    • sethers

      No he just posted an altered video on his website in order to defame an innocent person and then went on national television to defend himself and his “cause.”  That’s all.  

      • Don

        Actually, he posted it in response to the NAACP’s official defaming of the Tea Party movement as having racist elements in it. 

        Listen to the reaction of the crowd in Sherrod’s speech—sounds like a fair amount of racist sentiment in that crowd.  That’s the point Breitbart was trying to make. 

        • sethers

          Actually, the NAACP did not, as you suggest, defame the entire Tea Party as having racist elements. Rather it asked that the Tea Part confront racist elements within its ranks. These are different things. I would think that is something any reasonable organization should be happy to do.
          I heard the reaction of the crowd, but rather than as a response to someone on a racist diatribe, it was an excited reaction to a person who had learned an important lesson about how responsible people of different races should treat each other.

          • Don

            As far as I’m concerned, the NAACP needs to confront the racists in its OWN ranks, before it worries about anyone else.

            I heard the reaction of the crowd, but rather than as a response to someone on a racist diatribe, it was an excited reaction to a person who had learned an important lesson about how responsible people of different races should treat each other.

            That sounds like spin to me.

            • Don

              sethers, I think I owe you a fuller response.  Here goes.

              In the clip, Ms. Sherrod talks about how, while a white farmer is there asking for her help, she’s trying to decide how much help she’s going to give him. Funny, but I didn’t think it was up to public servants to arbitrarily decide the extent to which they’d actually do the jobs they’re being paid to do.

              And, when she said that, the crowd chuckled.  No gasps of horror, or shouts of “No, no.”  Chuckles. 

              I suspect that you and I are looking at this incident through different lenses—but that crowd, at that moment in her speech, didn’t seem too concerned with fairness.  They’d just heard a black official talking about getting some payback from a white person in need…and they sounded OK with that. 

              I’ll agree, the rest of her speech is uplifting.  But the clip that Breitbart posted was damning.  Otherwise, why would the NAACP and White House have thrown her under the bus as quickly as they did?

              I’m not going to condemn Breitbart for posting this clip, because the NAACP and others have had no problem with taking a few wacky signs here and there at some Tea Party events and implying that speaks for the whole movement.  That, and three words:  James Byrd ad.

              If you’re going to dish it out, learn to take it.

              • leftfield

                Yeah, that whole James Byrd thing was just blown way out of proportion by the liberal media.  I mean, you drag one lousy guy to his death behind a truck and everyone makes a big deal about it.  Besides, what’s a black male doing out of prison anyway?   

                • aesthete

                  Two of the men responsible had the death penalty administered to them; the third is serving a life sentence, all three duly convicted by a jury of their peers in Texas under a Republican governor. Was there a point to your post, or were you just wanting to provide a textbook example of the non-sequitur?

        • leftfield

          I’d say the whole thing has blown up in your collective faces.  You’ll all just have to keep repeating to yourselves, over and over, ad nauseum, “We’re not the racists; it’s them.  Right”?

          • Don

            I’d say the whole thing has blown up in your collective faces.

            Well, of COURSE you would say that, Left.  Your handlers would expect nothing less.

            • leftfield

              Well, of COURSE you would say that, Left.  Your handlers would expect nothing less.

              You’d have to have a very well-developed talent for self-deception to imagine the Shirley Sherrod debacle as a real feather in the conservative cap, Don.

              • Don

                Oh, I think our side will come out of this just fine. 

  • http://thechollajumps.com Jim Kelley

    Thank you Don for the shout out. and you spelled my name right! LOL! At this moment every conservative in Tucson is calling for my head. The Liberals are eating it up!  Just so we are clear, I ahve an opinion and I voice it, I do my best to not lie. I will highlight other peoples lies for comment, but if I think the evidence is thin or it is an out and out lie, I say so even if it is a conservative doing the spin ( or lie) as the case may be.

    Conservatives and conservatism is about principles, not personalities. I admire many conservatives and even they are imperfect. I admire who many consider to be liberal. I admire skill, persuassion, even theater at times. But, in the end it must be principles before personality.

    • leftfield

      When you talk about your principles, Jim, are you talking about the kind of principled behavior that allows you to take the following statement?:

      Escobar manifested the desire of El Salvador’s Catholic Church to have Arizona’s “anti-immigrant law” abolished because, in his judgment, it goes “against the rights of persons.” He added that “It is racist, and that can’t be in any civilized country, least in the United States, which serves as an example of democracy.”

      and turn it into a demand for the right of Mexicans to migrate anywhere they want to? 

      It is not “an out and out lie”, but “the evidence is thin”; very,very thin.  Yes conservatism is about principles; mostly about the lack of them.

      • http://thechollajumps.com Jim Kelley

        The context of the Archbishop’s “rights of persons” is about migration. The context of the Archbishops perceived racism of the law is another comment.

  • leftfield

    Listen to the reaction of the crowd in Sherrod’s speech—sounds like a fair amount of racist sentiment in that crowd.  That’s the point Breitbart was trying to make. 

    Don, I have listened to the tape and the crowd reaction.  I’m guessing you’ve not been to a sermon at a predominately black church.  If not, perhaps you’ve seen filmed versions (think about the tape of Rev. Wright speaking that had you so hopeful not so long ago).  If so, then you are aware that it is not uncommon for a black audience to “bear witness”, i.e. make verbal affirmations of the righteousness of the speaker’s words.  Now, before you get yourself all excited, go back and watch the tape again.  No one gave witness except during the redemptive portion of the story Ms Sherrod related.  The crowd was most receptive to her when she related to them that the experience taught her that it was not about black and white, but about the haves and the have nots. 

    • Don

      Dorie, Marlin’s pal in “Finding Nemo”:  Just keep swimming, just keep swimming…

      Leftfield: Just keep spinning, just keep spinning…

    • aesthete

      I was born and raised in both black and Hispanic churches, all pentecostal. I didn’t step foot in a “white” church until I was 9. “Bearing witness”, in fact, can be made manifest both by verbal disagreement and verbal confirmation, and typically, the black pastor will pause at the moral low point of a story (whether his own or one in the scriptures) to allow the audience to “bear witness” by expressing their disapproval at the state of affairs at that point in the story. Expressing approval at such a point would be taken as mockery, audience confusion at a mistaken cue, or agreement with the state of affairs. In this case, the last of those seems to be in play here.
       
      BTW, it’s fascinating that Sherrod’s racial look at the world was never repudiated. It was simply modified to make room for the poor among us. That improvement on her part is laudable from a personal standpoint, but remain unacceptable for any government official in charge of disbursement of our taxpayer funds, wouldn’t you agree?

      • leftfield

        BTW, it’s fascinating that Sherrod’s racial look at the world was never repudiated.

        MS Sherrod explained very well what her attitude was at one time (24 years ago),  how that attitude came about, the negative effect of that outlook and how she changed; was redeemed.  She repudiated her own racial outlook.  What more do you want from her or from the audience? 

        I’ve listened only to the unedited tape and I do not hear any noises of approval when she describes her initial reluctance to give her all to help the farmer in the story.  I hear…nothing. 

        …unacceptable for any government official in charge of disbursement of our taxpayer funds…

        Did you have the same issue with Ronnie “Welfare Queens” and “I believe in State’s Rights” Reagan?

        • aesthete

          Good question. Considering that Ronald Reagan’s very next speech after the purportedly “racist” one was to the Urban League, his explicit statement that he went to keep a commitment (and repudiation of racism as a motivation), the fact that it wasn’t at all effective, and that his life and career were marked with examples of his commitment to equality (hey look! here’s one), I’m gonna call bs. “States’ rights” should more accurately be called states’ powers, which are not a bad thing, and are integral to the federalist system. They were abused horribly in the past, and  However, Reagan didn’t really have the option to say, “states’ rights are actually states’ powers” and go into a lengthy digression on the dynamic between states and the federal government (though he did so elsewhere), any more than I have the practical option to call myself a classical liberal in political parlance. The term was already there for use.

          As to the “welfare queen” sobriquet, I volunteer at a mission here. It mostly helps Hispanics, and I’m very glad that I have the opportunity to help people who are hurting. Through my experiences, I’m more than familiar with individuals who fit the “welfare queen” stereotype: it is a significant demographic, even among those who come for help and genuinely need it. (It is truly astounding and heartbreaking to see just how many people who haven’t eaten for days have nice cars, iPhones, and other fancy accouterments that they’re unwilling to part with, but I digress.) BTW, who, exactly, stated that the “welfare queen” in question has to be black, or a minority? The term “white trash” exists for a reason, and largely refers to poor Southern whites. If you hear “black woman” when I say “welfare queen”, perhaps it is your biases that need correcting, and not mine.

          Had George Wallace, by some perverse stroke of luck, happened to win an all-expenses paid trip to the White House, I would indeed have the very same problem as I have with Sherrod Brown, for the same reasons. I’m glad that we haven’t had a demonstrably racist President since Nixon, and that you have to dial your wayback machine to WWI to find our last institutionally racist President (Wilson). Be thankful that that is the case, and don’t cheapen the word and the meaning behind it in the US by bandying it about so lightly.

  • leftfield

    Here’s what it’s really about for “your side”, Don:

    Imani Perry, a professor at Princeton’s Center for African American Studies, said some conservatives are manipulating white fears for political advantage.
    “I think many white Americans are fearful that with Obama in the White House, and the diversity in his appointments, that the racial balance of power is shifting. And that’s frightening both because people always are afraid to give up privilege, and because of the prospect of a black-and-brown backlash against a very ugly history,” Perry said.

    Whether there will be a backlash or not, I don’t know.  What I do know is that the balance of power is shifting and that shift is inevitable and unstoppable, Don. 

    • Don

      That was Imani Perry who said that?  Funny—it sounded like Al Sharpton.

  • Don

    What I do know is that the balance of power is shifting and that shift is inevitable and unstoppable, Don. 

    I’m sure you think that, Left.  That’s what’s so cute about you.

  • matthew german

    If there truly is a God and that deity is truly just  people like you will wind up on hell because you take advantage of the ignorant and the misinformed to promote an agenda that is self serving and not in the best interest of our country. I would like you to get out in front of the people and defend what you say in a debate. The sad truth about our country is that people like you realize that its not the truth that matters its how you can manipulate things to better your ilk

    • Don

      matthew, please don’t mince words—what do you really think?

      How am I manipulating you, matthew german?

  • matthew german

    You are not manipulating me you are manipulating those who want to hear what you say even if its a lie. Some people fear that their beliefs are wrong and would rather steadfastly hold on to them rather than to subject them to the scrutiny of factual data. You , being a bright person with a personal agenda know that and exploit it. Im just calling you out as a self serving demagogue who will ultimately leave a very small imprint in the history of this world,Mr Breitbart

    • Don

      Do you normally condemn people you disagree with to Hell? 

      As for having a personal agenda—check out that bright red banner at the top of my posts.  Check out the “Reply” button next time, too.

  • anonymous_coward

    Blaming Breitbart for the firing of Sherrod is like the Greeks blaming capitalism for the failure of their socialism.  Since when did Brietbart get the authority to fire federal employees?

  • Zef

    Another beautiful example of partisan politics perpetuating lies to defame each other. There were periods of my life where I thought I might have had a leaning in one direction or another (right or left) but lately, seeing how disgusting this “fight” has become, I want nothing to do with it any longer. This latest, completely unprovoked attack is one of the more stomach turning political episodes of the last decade, and shows how low we’ve collectively sunk.
    I witness a media that makes its money by spreading lies and fear, and anger towards political parties, and I see pundits, commentators and hosts who genuinely feel like they are “in the know” and see some larger picture. This is when a nation is in real danger, when the scam artists begin to believe their own righteousness to be genuine.
    My address is not to the author of this trash, nor to his supporters. It’s already too late for you, as your dismissive reply, if any, will attest to.  I am only writing a brief message to the casual browsers, the curious or quietly interested.
    Turn off your TV.  Never listen to talk radio, talk shows,  or network sponsored news programs. You have the internet do learn all sides of a story, you have means to go places, write letters and ask your own questions. Use common sense and steer clear of pied pipers.

    • aesthete

      I do hold an ideological opinion, but I agree: news networks, talk show radio, and others of their ilk (the Daily Show and the like) are primarily meant to entertain, not inform. That’s all well and good as far as it goes, but it doesn’t make them credible sources of information.

    • Don

      It’s already too late for you, as your dismissive reply, if any, will attest to.

      Zef, I think you might have taken one too many arrogance pills last night.  Or, taken one too many philospophy classes in community college.  (You must have skipped the government and US history classes—because you’d then know that American politics has ALWAYS been a contact, full-elbows sport.  Go back and look at the things Federalist writers printed about Thomas Jefferson.)

      Do you normally do this routine from a soapbox? 

  • Don

    See ya.

    • dataport

      I am at a loss to understand why you don’t want us to read O’Neil’s comment.
      What exactly so offends or frightens you? An enquiring mind wants to know.

      • Don

        I’ll send you an e-mail.

      • http://pointmantucson.yuku.com/ mike_brewer

        Smith continues to censor many commenters, None of whom are improprietous. He seems to scare easily in the presence of thoughtful dialogue.

        • http://pointmantucson.yuku.com/ mike_brewer

          Welp,as Ronald Reagan used to say, I stand corrected. Should have read the above answer to Sam first. Sorry Don.

          • Don

            That’s right, Gaston…you should have.

  • Don

    Breitbart hits ANOTHER target!

    “What Hath Breitbart Wrought:  NY Times Walks Back Charges of Tea Party Racism”

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/07/026861.php

    Hat tip to “Instapundit” (http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/

  • santacruzsam

    Hey Data Port, we the readers often wonder how many commenters Mr Smith censors or deletes?  Delicate thought and nuanced logic is not his forte.  Defense contractors only know superior weaponry, not dialectical thinking.  In fact, I think he tossed the Veteran Veritas guy months ago. VV is a real thoughtful man…too much for Fort Bellicose.   Former Intelligence officers have a history of pontificating with no life threat to themselves.  TC.com is the perfect place for him.

    • Don

      Howdy Sam!

      For the record, I’ve only banned two people. One said he’d be happy to see George W. Bush dragged behind a truck, the way James Byrd was. The other referred to American soldiers and the contractors who supported them in Afghanistan as murderers, who killed women and children “willy nilly.”

      I’ve not banned Mike.

      I see you’re still playing Lefou to Mike’s Gaston? (How’s that for nuance?)

  • Mike Brewer

    Avenant is my original name.

  • Don

    if you read Don’s post above, he was complaining about the NAACP ad targeting George Bush. Now, if any man needing dragging behind a truck…

    That’s it, Leftfield—bye.