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Did Eric Boehlert Research James Eric Fuller Before Championing Him?—UPDATED

by on Jan. 15, 2011, under Uncategorized

If not, he’s probably regretting that right about now.

Fuller’s emergence as a beeping smoke detector amid the right-wing haze of the “Climate of Hate” has already drawn praise from Soros operative Eric Bohlert, who issued a Twitter taunt to Michelle Malkin and Andrew Breitbart: “Countdown to smearing wounded veteran from Tucson massacre begins… now.”

If you haven’t heard of James Eric Fuller, you soon will. From the LA Times:

James Eric Fuller, a 63-year-old Democratic activist, was arrested after shouting “You’re dead!” at Tucson Tea Party spokesman Trent Humphries, said Pima County Sheriff’s Department spokesman Jason Ogan. Fuller was shot in the knee and back Jan. 8 when a gunman opened fire, killing six and injuring 13, including Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

Fuller, a disabled veteran and former campaign volunteer for Giffords, was charged with making threats, intimidation and disorderly conduct and was involuntarily committed for a psychiatric evaluation, Ogan said.

In an interview with Democracy Now on Thursday, Fuller linked the shooting to conservative leaders associated with the tea party, including Sarah Palin, Fox News commentator Glenn Beck and Nevada Senate candidate Sharron Angle. “It looks like Palin, Beck, Sharron Angle and the rest got their first target,” Fuller said.

I wonder how David Fitzsimmons (Daily Star) and Steve Benson (Arizona Republic) will treat this event, and Mr. Fuller, in their cartoons? After all, Steve Benson drew a cartoon this week—the week when we’ve all been called to come together and start healing—that showed Sarah Palin morphing into a Glock handgun. And Fitz is…well, Fitz. (Perhaps editorial cartoonists are exempt…perhaps it’s all the rest of us who are supposed to come together).

Meanwhile, a Google search for “James Eric Fuller” turns up a page on the website “Hypnothoughts” for someone named “James Eric Fuller”. If they’re the same men, then the next few days could be very interesting, indeed:

Where do you live? Tucson, Arizona
Hypnosis Experience: No Hypnosis Experience
What are you looking for on this site? KIndred spirits and an opportunity to advocate my personal agenda promoting social justice and common sense.
Areas of Specialty: I use extraordinary persuasive charisma to interest blase, apathetic, oblivious and at times hostile voters to listen to the voice of justice and consanguinity. My experiences encountering public figures and many affluent travelers in person has led me to believe that we all are to blame for George W. Bush.As Plato stated, “The penalty that good men pay for not being interested in politics is to be governed by men worse than themselves.”

(Emphasis added).

“Democracy Now” really knows how to pick ‘em, don’t they?

UPDATE: Apparently, Mr. Fuller had quite the week for himself. Here’s a comment from the conservative blog Redstate, on Mr. Fuller’s interview with the…ahem, New York Times.

Mr. Fuller was also involved in a confrontation on Jan. 8, shortly before the attack on Ms. Giffords, which occurred at an event she held for her constituents outside a Safeway supermarket. He said in a long interview last week with The New York Times that he had argued there with a man he described as a former Marine after a heated discussion over politics. Gabriel Zimmerman, an aide to Ms. Giffords, separated the two.

Mr. Zimmerman was killed in the attack later that morning.

Mr. Fuller spoke dismissively of Republicans during the interview. “They appeal to simple-minded rednecks,” he said.

He said that he had had trouble sleeping after he was wounded and that he calmed himself the first night by writing down the Declaration of Independence, which he had memorized three decades earlier.

In the first days after the attack, his anger seemed especially strong. In the interview, he repeatedly denounced the “Tea Party crime syndicate,” and said he placed some of the blame for the shooting on Sarah Palin and other Republican leaders, saying he believed they had contributed to a toxic atmosphere.

He said he had expected to see protesters at Ms. Giffords’s event, and had planned “to shout them down because I can make a lot of noise

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  • John from Tucson

    Speaking as a personal friend of Mr. Fullers I would ask that everyone show some respect. Granted Eric has some very defined views however no one should be made a villain for his views. I will say Eric could have handled things differently but let us not forget he is one of the victims. Those of you who advocate the right to bear arms are asking us who disagree to accept your point of view. Well how about those of us do not believe everyone should have a firearm. Why are we made out to be crazy? And while it is obvious that Palin’s website was not the cause of this incident. It certainly wouldn’t hurt to tone things down a bit. No matter what side of the issues you are on, I think we can all agree that innocent American citizens do not need to die ! 

    • DarreB

      Hey Fruit Loop – We’ll show Mr. Fuller the same respect he has shown others.

      • gordon gershater

        There’s no reason to refer to people as Fruit Loop, crazy, etc. This reaction to what is already a very sad state of affairs is nothing less than insensitive and ignorant. Fuller is obviously suffering from post traumatic stress syndrome. Why don’t you spend a moment focusing on more compassionate thoughts, instead of resorting to more negativity and counter-productive behavior.

        • James Wilson

          gordon gershater don’t get your panties in a bunch .

    • socco

      “Speaking as a personal friend of Mr. Fullers I would ask that everyone show some respect. Granted Eric has some very defined views however no one should be made a villain for his views”
       
      At least not until they try to inflame hated, and make death threats? You don’t get a special pass for that, sorry

      • tessa

        I would never admit to being this crazies, personal friend, nor let him near my children. BTW, what is his non-physical pension he receives from the taxpayers?

    • socco

      “No matter what side of the issues you are on, I think we can all agree that innocent American citizens do not need to die “!
       
      We can agree to that, but apparently Mr. Fuller and Loughner cannot…

      • Sarge

        Ah, but you see, Socco – - people like Fuller and Loughner do not agree with your definition of “innocent.”
        Only those who agree with them are innocent. The others are evil and part of the problem, and must be either intimidated or eliminated.

    • Don

      No. Mr. Fuller’s interview with Democracy Now and his actions tonight—if they took place as the media is reporting—didn’t show respect, so he shouldn’t expect any respect in return. He does have my sympathy for the trauma he suffered last Saturday. 

    • kguerra

      NO SYMPATHY FOR CRAZY VIOLENT LEFTISTS
      J. Eric Fuller is the definition of what Gibbs called “The professional left” who are crazy from the jump.  Now, Fuller’s skull shrine must have told him he needs to be the next looney Cindy Sheehan, promoted by the Obama and  ABC.  Giffords supported the Constitution, gun rights, free speech, border security, Israel and voted against Pelosi — J. Eric Fuller is a marxist.
      The Tea Partiers can’t be too dangerous or he wouldn’t have gone there amongst the threat of all those elderly people and baby strollers.  Maybe he wasn’t really hurt that bad, or he’s irresponsible and self destructive and was there against medical advice,  or he was upset he got Vicodin at UMC and really would have dug Dilaudid instead;  or,  maybe he’s just the next pot smoking crazy lefty Jared Loughren.  I’m guessing it’s the last one.
      He must be crazy, because where was he when:  Sarah Palin got her church firebombed with people still inside, 5 weeks after the 2008 election?  Or, when the TX governor’s mansion was firebombed and gutted? Or, when 800 of his violent crazy lefty pals at the RNC were arrested attacking delegates daily– two caught red-handed trying to firebomb the delegates?  And there are many other documented cases of real lefty violence, not just rhetoric.
      No, the cowardly pompous J. Eric Fuller and the MSM are not really concerned about the safety of  fellow citizens, or civil discourse.  Their fellow travelers are busy censoring leftist violence so they can continue it so they don’t have to be accountable.
      As their leader,  Obama needs to apologize for their violence because it comes from the top. He could stop it with a couple of phone calls.  But no.  Instead, the  disgraceful Nobel Prize winner calls for ‘punishing enemies’, ‘bringing guns to knife fights’,  ‘hitting (peaceful citizens) back twice as hard’,  and saying he ‘likes a fight’ and speaks of ‘hand to hand combat’.  Really?
      Tea Partiers don’t wear masks and bandannas to rallies and protests to hide their faces from police cameras, criminals and crazy professional leftists do.
       
       
       
       

    • Janet

      Agreed.

    • Lonnie

      Yea just another lefty loon making threats that we should ignore and blame on the right .You can forget that he’s just a turd shot by another lefty turd.

      • cochisecitizen

        “lefty loon” . . . “turd shot” . . . “lefty turd” . . .
         
        The message from the Right is always so inspiring, so uplifting. Don’t see how anyone could accuse them of anything at all, except at upholding basic American decency and morals.

        • Sarge

          Don’t go all looney-tunes and shoot us for it, Cochise!

    • Earnan

      Fuller is a lunatic and a thug.
      Fortunately the Democrats don’t pay him enough, so he can’t afford a Glock.
       

    • timothy

      “Well how about those of us do not believe everyone should have a firearm. Why are we made out to be crazy?”
      Why? Because the right of all citizens to keep and bear arms is firmly established in the Constitution. Context, history and basic English rules of grammar show us that its meaning is very clear. Your belief is in total denial of reality and thus, by definition establishes you and the rest of your ilk to be insane.
      As for toning it down, I think that will once members of Congress, on both sides, stop raping the Constitution and confine themselves to operating within its restrictions.

    • KH

      “Those of you who advocate the right to bear arms are asking us who disagree to accept your point of view. Well how about those of us do not believe everyone should have a firearm.”
      It’s ok for you to disagree but the Constitution provides me with the basis for owning them.
      Mr. Fuller shows the hypocrisy of the left. Tolerance until you don’t agree with us, then violent threats.
      This has been born out of a long list of leftists, communists and Marxists. Look no further than the 60′s. Abbie Hoffman and the Weather Underground just as a few examples.

      • Sarge

        Not to mention Lee Harvey Oswald, of course.

    • jesternhell

      you are asking us who don’t agree with him his view to accept your point of view. he blames people who are not even at fault and tells people the same .  you want us to agree that innocent American citizens do not need to die yet he tells people “your dead”. i feel for him but like the sheriff he is out of line.

    • vladdy

      “”No one should be made a villain for his views.”

      Does that include Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and Sharon Angle? If so, better inform your friend.

      “tone it down”? Now who was it again, who said that 3 patriotic Americans have just claimed a victim?

      Hy.po.cryt.

    • Matt

      “Those of you who advocate the right to bear arms are asking us who disagree to accept your point of view. ”
      I guess you’ve never heard of this little document we have around here. We call it the Constitution. The rights given by our fore-fathers in the constitution are not an opinion, no matter how hard you wish them to be.

  • John from Tucson

    We are all part of the same planet so it would be better to come to a middle ground than throw digs at each other. I certainly recognize your right to bear arms. However, I would be more comfortable if less people had guns. I also recognize that my opinion is my own, as is yours. I will offer this. The right to bear arms was written in a time when this was a very different world. Since our current world is vastly different, perhaps we should revisit the issue so that both you and I can exist in a community that belongs to us both.

    • DarrelB

      Fine.  All you need to do to change gun laws is amend the U. S. Constitution.  Go for it.

    • RNGH

      A citizen without an adequate and effective means of personal defense is a slave.   And that my friend only changes in the minds of the deluded or the simple!
       

    • KH

      “The right to bear arms was written in a time when this was a very different world. Since our current world is vastly different, perhaps we should revisit the issue so that both you and I can exist in a community that belongs to us both.”
      I’m sure you Marxists can say the same thing about the 1st amendment and the 4th and the 5th. You see it never stops when you people attack one part of the Constitution. If Constitutionalists allow that to happen continuously then the Constitution will amount to that paper which is kept in the bathroom.
      The Constitution doesn’t need to be re-written or interpreted. It is a document restricting the federal government. It doesn’t give me my rights contrary to what you Marxists would like to think.
      If you don’t like the Constitution there are such things called amendments. That’s what so beautiful about the thoughts of the founding fathers. They knew it would be hard to amend it as it should be.

    • pst314

      “We are all part of the same planet so it would be better to come to a middle ground than throw digs at each other.”
      I don’t want to change or suppress my opinions if that is the price of getting along. (And remember that your friend Fullers certainly wasn’t willing to exercise courtesy when speaking to those he disagreed with, even before he was shot. And his “I use extraordinary persuasive charisma” is not exactly the sign of a mature mind.)
      “I certainly recognize your right to bear arms.”
      Thank you.
      “However, I would be more comfortable if less people had guns.”
      Okay, but I don’t think anybody should give up their Constitutional rights just to make you feel more comfortable.
      And why are you uncomfortable about ordinary decent citizens owning firearms?
      “The right to bear arms was written in a time when this was a very different world.”
      What does that mean? Speak clearly and in specifics.
      Do you think that there is no longer a need for personal self-defense? No robberies, rapes, kidnappings, and home invasions?
      “perhaps we should revisit the issue so that both you and I can exist in a community that belongs to us both.”
      No.
      And why do you think that decent citizens must disarm in order for you to “coexist” with them?
      You start out trying to sound reasonable, but your position is extreme–and without credible foundation.

  • Rustyiron

    So I guess you’re not willing to cut the guy some slack for having been shot TWICE, and maybe being a little bit traumatized and angry? Glen Beck runs around talking about how he’d like to strangle Michael Moore, or poison Nancy Pelosi… did I miss the time those two shot him?

    • socco

      No, absolutely not.

    • Don

      No Rusty, I’m not—because it seems he’s taken advantage of the situation.

      Actually, a lot of people have already cut him some slack, by not piling on him after his Democracy Now interview. 

      • Rustyiron

        Don’t kid yourself. They piled on him then.
        Here’s the thing about this whole situation. As a Canadian (your northern buddy), I have to wonder why any other country would bother to arm itself against the US with an eye on eventually attacking it. If they just sit back and wait long enough, you guys will just eat each other.

        • Karen S.

          “As a Canadian (your northern buddy), I have to wonder why any other country would bother to arm itself against the US”
          The nice thing about being a Canadian is that with the US to protect you, you don’t have to worry about any country arming itself against Canada. With a case of Moosehead, gawd-awful rationed 3rd world socialized medical “care” and a few mounties you can sit back and watch the real nations handle the realities of life.
          But if your unimportant frozen tundra instead had Russia as it’s “southern buddy” you’d be whining about your lot in life in Cyrillic.
          You’re welcome.

          • Rustyiron

            Oh dude. You know squat about our medical system. What you know of it is from people who have a vested interest in feeding you propaganda.   It works very nicely, and frankly we think the fact that you guys have to set up free clinics for your poor like this one to be savage:
            http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=8309740
            If this is your idea of civilized behavior, you are welcome to it.
            As for the US to defend us… we do just fine, but we have made a few questionable choices re our own defense. We decided to be a nuclear free nation at the request of the US. I would like to remind you that we were one of the first nuclear nations and could be very quickly again in a pinch, and really… all one needs is a few nukes to scare the bejebus out of any attackers. As for other forms of defense… we also built one of the most lethal modern fighter jets, and again, canceled the program at the request of the US. As a geographically isolated nation, we are more than capable of taking care of ourselves in a pinch, but you tell yourself whatever you have need to if that makes you feel like the big kid on the block.
            Back to my original point… you guys are feeding on each other. Keep it up, and you’re doomed.

        • http://leatherpenguin.com/wordpress TC@LeatherPenguin

          And you Canucks legislate language to the point that guys like Mark Steyn can get hauled into jail for quoting imams, and a 25 year old Dire Straits’ song can be banned from your airwaves…. Remember, hoser, you guys exist because we carry the weight that our “northern buddy” (more like “chintzy cap”) refuses to bear.

          • Ron

            Now you’re slashing out at Canada too?   You guys hate everything – I guess you just find that easier than thinking….

            Canada is one of the best allies the US has – but you wouldn’t know that.   Ask your mother to tell you about the Iranian hostage crisis, and how the Canadian embassy offered refuge to americans, forged Canadian passports for them, and got them out of the country.   Appreciative Americans were flyng US and Canadian flags side-by-side on their front lawns for months.    And fools like you spew hate and call them derogatory names?   Why –  because they have a better healthcare system than you do?   US medical care is pretty low on the scale and you get arrogant?   If national healthcare is so bad, why do US congressman have it?  Would you eliminate Vet Hospitals?   

            • vladdy

              Yet another example of “I can threaten you, but don’t you dare say anything to defend yourself.”

              You go insulting the U.S. and, yeah, you’ll probably get insulted back.

              I’ve always liked Canada, but people like you can always change my mind.

        • Don

          Oh, we’ll be fine, Rusty. As Winston Churchill said of Americans, we did not cross the oceans and the plains because we were made of sugar candy.

          • MRoy

            Winston Churchill also said that the best argument against democracy is to spend five minutes listening to the average voter.

            Touche’.

        • Nelson Phillips

          Aren’t Canada and Narnia the same place?

          • Gaby

            Canada and Charn

    • JoeS

      It would appear that he had issues controlling his anger long before he was wounded….

    • http://www.3joes.us Arthur Laramee

      Well, this  establishes you as a typical lefty.  You cannot use Glenn Beck’s own words to refute him.  You have to make it up and then use the phony accusation to attack him.  You guys are all the same.  Pitiable air heads that speak what they feel but understand nothing and incapable of logical thinking.

      • Rustyiron

        Just keep telling yourself that. But a few more incidents like this one, and you might not feel so confident. Can you imagine what will happen if there is another event on par with the Oklahoma bombing?

      • Rustyiron

        What? Dude… just do a freaking search on YouTube. Beck did go off on those two, exactly as I said. I wish I were making this up. I wish I were making it up that a madman was intercepted going after the Tides foundation, and obscure activist group that Beck had recently targeted as an enemy of Americans.
        But believe whatever you want.

        • vladdy

          Obscure? Well,  I suppose if you’ve never read “Discover the Networks.”

    • Earnan

      “Cut him so slack”?
       
      He was verbally abusive well BEFORE anyone got shot.
       
       

    • HGecko

      Here’s one of my favorite ‘catches’ by the Washington Post:

      An hour after Giffords was shot, Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas actually tweeted: “Mission accomplished, Sarah Palin.” He conveniently failed to mention that his Daily Kos had put a “bull’s eye” (their words) on Giffords in 2008 – including her on a list of centrist Democrats who should be “targeted” in Democratic primaries. Mission accomplished, Markos?

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/10/AR2011011003002.html

      Actual post on the DailyCoose:

      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/25/1204/74882/511/541568

      Of couse we have Montel Williams on Sep-2-2009 saying about Michelle Bachman: “So Michelle, slit your wrists. Go ahead. Do us more favor and move up about two feet. Start at your collarbone.”

      Or Mike Malloy an Jan-1-2010 “I hope to wake up someday and read that Rush Limbaugh has choked to death.”

      Or Ed Schultz on May-11-2009 on Dick Cheney: “Lord take him to the promised land.”

      http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html

      Check out the latest far-left progressive climate of hate here:

      http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/

      Gov. Steve Beshear (D) – “When I mention that Democrats are problem solvers, I can think of only one Republican who can be a problem solver – that is Vice President Dick Cheney if he would just take George on a hunting trip”.

      Chris Matthews – fantasizing on air about seeing Rush Limbaugh shot in the head.

      Sandra Bernhard – Sarah Palin should be GANG RAPED if she comes to New York.

      Craig Kilborn – superimposing the words “Snipers Wanted” over the face George Bush.

      Betty Williams – Nobel “Peace Prize” winner publicly stating her desire to murder George Bush.

      Alec Baldwin – urging the murder of all Congressional Republicans and their families.

      Nina Totenberg – ABC News reporter wishes death by AIDS on Senator Jesse Helms and/or his grandchildren.

      John Kerry: Or, I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone .
       
      Did I miss something?

       

      • Don

        No, I think you’ve hit all the “highlights.”

      • Rustyiron

        Again, the difference here is the body count. Leftists might use this language, but it’s the right who actually goes out and starts a-shootin:

        July 2008: A gunman named Jim David Adkisson, agitated at how “liberals” are “destroying America,” walks into a Unitarian Church and opens fire, killing two churchgoers and wounding four others.
        October 2008: Two neo-Nazis are arrested in Tennessee in a plot to murder dozens of African-Americans, culminating in the assassination of President Obama.
        December 2008: A pair of “Patriot” movement radicals — the father-son team of Bruce and Joshua Turnidge, who wanted “to attack the political infrastructure” — threaten a bank in Woodburn, Oregon, with a bomb in the hopes of extorting money that would end their financial difficulties, for which they blamed the government. Instead, the bomb goes off and kills two police officers. The men eventually are convicted and sentenced to death for the crime.
        December 2008: In Belfast, Maine, police discover the makings of a nuclear “dirty bomb” in the basement of a white supremacist shot dead by his wife. The man, who was independently wealthy, reportedly was agitated about the election of President Obama and was crafting a plan to set off the bomb.
        January 2009: A white supremacist named Keith Luke embarks on a killing rampage in Brockton, Mass., raping and wounding a black woman and killing her sister, then killing a homeless man before being captured by police as he is en route to a Jewish community center.
        February 2009: A Marine named Kody Brittingham is arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate President Obama. Brittingham also collected white-supremacist material.
        April 2009: A white supremacist named Richard Poplawski opens fire on three Pittsburgh police officers who come to his house on a domestic-violence call and kills all three, because he believed President Obama intended to take away the guns of white citizens like himself. Poplawski is currently awaiting trial.
        April 2009: Another gunman in Okaloosa County, Florida, similarly fearful of Obama’s purported gun-grabbing plans, kills two deputies when they come to arrest him in a domestic-violence matter, then is killed himself in a shootout with police.
        May 2009: A “sovereign citizen” named Scott Roeder walks into a church in Wichita, Kansas, and assassinates abortion provider Dr. George Tiller.
        June 2009: A Holocaust denier and right-wing tax protester named James Von Brunn opens fire at the Holocaust Museum, killing a security guard.
        February 2010: An angry tax protester named Joseph Ray Stack flies an airplane into the building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas. (Media are reluctant to label this one “domestic terrorism” too.)
        March 2010: Seven militiamen from the Hutaree Militia in Michigan and Ohio are arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate local police officers with the intent of sparking a new civil war.
        March 2010: An anti-government extremist named John Patrick Bedell walks into the Pentagon and opens fire, wounding two officers before he is himself shot dead.
        May 2010: A “sovereign citizen” from Georgia is arrested in Tennessee and charged with plotting the violent takeover of a local county courthouse.
        May 2010: A still-unidentified white man walks into a Jacksonville, Fla., mosque and sets it afire, simultaneously setting off a pipe bomb.
        May 2010: Two “sovereign citizens” named Jerry and Joe Kane gun down two police officers who pull them over for a traffic violation, and then wound two more officers in a shootout in which both of them are eventually killed.
        July 2010: An agitated right-winger and convict named Byron Williams loads up on weapons and drives to the Bay Area intent on attacking the offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, but is intercepted by state patrolmen and engages them in a shootout and armed standoff in which two officers and Williams are wounded.
        September 2010: A Concord, N.C., man is arrested and charged with plotting to blow up a North Carolina abortion clinic. The man, 26-year–old Justin Carl Moose, referred to himself as the “Christian counterpart to (Osama) bin Laden” in a taped undercover meeting with a federal informant.

        • Don

          Rusty, I have read through your list.  IMO the vitriol on the left is much closer to the “mainstream” of liberalism then the right’s vitriol is to conservatism’s mainstream.  There are plenty of prominent liberal writers, commentators and actors on Michelle’s list, as well as a few Democratic politicians—people who shape and drive the national liberal message.  Your list is populated with fringe, marginal characters. 

          Thank you for posting your list, and placing yourself on record.  I’m presuming this is the best you can do?

          • Rustyiron

            The people on the list I provided committed actual crimes where people either got hurt, or killed, or they were intercepted before anything really bad happened. The list Malkin provided was one that could easily be duplicated featuring actors on the right.
            My point is this: both the left and right are responsible for lots of nasty comments, but on the right, we have a television network dedicated to the right, plus talk radio. Meaning the msg of paranoia and violence is hammered in day in and day out, hence the reason we see more violence from far right extremists and why your own dept of HS has noted the threat from the right.
            Take it up with them. Oh wait… the tea party has because they simply can’t handle the truth.

          • Rustyiron

            The people on the list I provided committed actual crimes where people either got hurt, or killed, or they were intercepted before anything really bad happened. The list Malkin provided was one that could easily be duplicated featuring actors on the right.
            My point is this: both the left and right are responsible for lots of nasty comments, but on the right, we have a television network dedicated to the right, plus talk radio. Meaning the msg of paranoia and violence is hammered in day in and day out, hence the reason we see more violence from far right extremists and why your own dept of HS has noted the threat from the right.
            Take it up with them. Oh wait… the tea party has because they simply can’t handle the truth about what conservatism has become.

        • pst314

          There was an American “peace activist” who axed somebody to death on a Dutch railroad platform. He traveled to the Netherlands specifically to commit murder.

          • http://4merly-a-person.livejournal.com/200578.html darkvlight

            FDR’s Uncle Jo and Karl Marx, both said…There will be peace around the world, when there is no more resistance to Communism-socialism.

            The Peace sign, in essence, is a white flag to evil.

        • Reinhold

          RUSTY IRON:  Keeping Score?  You admit that you are “LEFT.”   When the RIGHT has been removed what remains is that which is LEFT.  Of course it is convenient to own both sides of the argument. The  so-called “Right” are really just an alternative LEFT.  It was your LRFT/RIGHT leader Marx that declared, it is not the vote that counts so much as who counts the vote.  Your reference to body count  discloses the vapid arguments or the political party.  That is why those of us that love liberty and the truth better than servitude and lies have formed an alliance of  objective individuals.  The  ”TEA Party” is not a party special interest like the bogus LEFT and RIGHT.  We are no political party at all!  Neither  Glenn Beck or Nancy Pelosi, et al.  have anything to do with this alliance.  We shall demand and compel obedience to the LAW.  We shall prohibit and abolish all actions that abrogate the LAW.  The Law is not the rule of men. The LAW is given by the same Supreme Authority that endowed all free men with  those certain unalienable rights.  Among these unalienable rights are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.  Tread on these with fear and trembling.  The incidents that you cite in your posting are an admixture of Righteous Indignation opposed to Outrageous Mischief  mixed with clumsy error.   It is always so at the beginning of an Uprising.  However, the actual count for the so-called “LEFT”   IS ONE HUNDRED  MILLION MURDERED WHITE CHRISTIANS.  Among your spurious allegations are outrageous misrepresentations of material fact.  Shrilling falsehood is standard fare of the special interest of parties that wish to impose their hostile demands for others to surrender to the tyranny of  their anti-Christ doctrine.  This JEWIST campaign of terror , death and destruction is as foolish as it is  futile.  RESISTANCE  RISES TO DEFEAT OPPRESSION.  The resistance may not be elegant but it is certain.  It will always be oppressor that must  face uncertainty.  This is fully manifest in the current circumstance.  These acts that you find “offensive” are fully intended to be offensive.  Though inelegant these actions will escalate.  Ultimately when DEFENSE encounters the reprobate and his stubborn resolve, THE LAW OF NECESSITY  AND THE RIGHT OF SELF-DEFENSE converge and  RESISTANCE BECOMES RUTHLESS.  Be certain,  whether you think you are LEFT or RIGHT the RESISTANCE TO OPPRESSION WILL PREVAIL.

          Read here what history teaches:
           

          “There is a great danger for the United States of America, this great danger is the Jew. Gentlemen, in every land which the Jews have settled, they have depressed the normal level and lowered the degree of commercial honesty. They have remained apart and unassimilated — they have created a state within a state, and when they are opposed they attempt to strangle the nation financially as in the case of Portugal and Spain. For more than 1700 years, they have lamented their sorrowful fate — namely, that they were driven out of their motherland, but gentlemen, if the civilized world today should give them back Palestine and their property, they would immediately find pressing reasons for not returning there. Why? Because they are vampires — they cannot live among themselves; they must live among Christians and others who do not belong to their race .”If they are not excluded from the United States by the Constitution, within less than 100 years, they will stream into this country in such numbers they will rule and destroy us and change our form of Government for which we Americans shed our blood and sacrificed life, property and personal freedom. If the Jews are not excluded, within 200 years our children will be working in the fields to feed the Jews while they remain in the Counting House gleefully rubbing their hands. “I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews forever, your children’s children will curse you in your graves. Their ideas are not those of Americans even when they have lived among us for ten generations. The leopard cannot change its spots. The Jews are a danger to this land and if they are allowed to enter they will imperil our institutions — they should be excluded by the Constitution.”
          Benjamin Franklin: Statement in the Convention, concerning Jewish immigration to America and the danger it posed (1789)

          Defend the Synagogues of Satan at your peril.  Americans cannot repent because American will not confess.
           
           
           

        • Sarge

          “– May 2010: A still-unidentified white man walks into a Jacksonville, Fla., mosque and sets it afire, simultaneously setting off a pipe bomb.”
           
          What’s your rationale for including this incident as being perpetrated by a “right-winger?” Because it was a white male?
           
          Racist much?
          Better than half that list consists of people or groups which the main-stream Right uniformly disavow as lunatics, retards, or both – - something the main-stream Left flatly refuses to do with their bomb-throwers (Bill Ayres?) and rioters.

        • novemberelection

          Wow all those opinions going to waste by lacking basic history knowledge. “White Supremacists”  and religious zealots have nothing to do with “right wing” politics. It’s a Democrat false position.
          Further, you know Martin Luther King was a Republican as were most blacks back then, right?
          And you know that it was Democrats who passed Jim Crow laws, Black Codes and started the KKK, right?
          And you know that JFK voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Sen. Al Gore Sr. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, resulting in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation.
          It was the Republicans who fought to free blacks from slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom (13th Amendment), citizenship (14th Amendment) and the right to vote (15th Amendment). Republicans passed the civil rights laws of the 1860s, including the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Reconstruction Act of 1867.
          The list is endless. 1924 Democratic National Convention was called the Klanbake.
          Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood Founder said:

          “The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”

          “Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.”
          What did Ruth Bader Ginsberg say in JUNE 2009 about Roe v Wade: Answer:
          “Frankly, I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”?
          What population is THAT?
          Learn your history.

        • JC

          Every case on your list are just like Loughner. Crazies who are not right wingers. So, since the Westboro Baptist Church idiots aren’t righties, then by your logic they have to be lefties, so those guys are on your team. Have fun with them. By your logic, since the muslim terrorists aren’t right wingers, they’re on the left, so 9/11, US Cole, etc, that’s all left wing terrorists. Talk about a body count!
           

      • Lisa Steel

        Yes, unfortunately you have. Michelle Malkin has a list. It’s long and disgusting. Tee shirts with “I’ve come to kill George Bush, Bush hung in effigy (and burned) are just a few. I haven’t seen anything even close from the Right –but of course in the batshit crazy brain of the left, all speech that doesn’t conform to their warped government teat sucking worldview appears as hate.

      • vladdy

        Wanda Sykes hoping Rush’s kidneys fail (and calling him
        the 20th hijacker” and a drug fiend.)

        Obama, Michelle, and the Press Club members laughing their heads off when they heard it.

    • http://www.wcvarones.com W.C. Varones

      Fuller was nuts long before the shooting.  Look at his HuffPo profile.

    • Bananas

      Yes, he was shot, but did he do it himself? The police searched his house with night vision goggles last night saying it was “routine.” Oh really? Have they searched all the other victim’s houses?

  • Karen S

    “but let us not forget he is one of the victims.”
    Sorry, but that does not give him a license to lie and scream death threats at people.  Hopefully, this time the Sheriff won’t ignore an obvious danger to the community.

    • Rustyiron

      And he hasn’t. He’s been committed to the hospital. Fortunately here in the 21st Century they consider things such as PTSD instead of just throwing the dude in jail.

      • timothy

        Do a little research, a diagnosis of PTSD requires that the symptoms last for at least one month after they begin. Therefore PTSD is not a possible excuse for his behavior.

        • MRoy

          I think he means “post traumatic stress” in the classic sense, rather than in military jargon.

          Watch and listen – stress and anxiety is simply spilling out of this man – and he seemingly has no history of psychological problems.  He’s also been thrust into the national spotlight (thanks again, MSM) through circumstances not of his making.

          Seems to me he is lashing out at those he holds responsible – not for Jared Loughner, but for 2 solid years of “Get Gabby” rhetoric.  Sarah Palin’s gun sights were just the tip of the iceberg, and even good ol’ John McCain jumped in to the shark pool.

          Trent Humphries, a media-savvy political professional, actually gets this, which is why he was reluctant to press charges.  That was the police’s call, and it was a correct one, because anybody who is under that much stress and anxiety can, in fact, end up harming himself and/or others.

      • vladdy

        Unless you are his treating psychiatrist, I wouldn’t go around stating positively about his mental condition.

  • Linda in Tucson

    I agree with the above postings.   People here are on edge – and fed up.  Anger and accusations seem to be the rule of the day.  Every liberal is violent and nuts.  Every conservative is violent and nuts.  So to sum it up – the vast majority of America are violent and nuts!  It never ends.  Now this latest event will only add more fuel to an already raging fire.
    And I thought the immigration ‘debate’ was exhausting.
     

    • vladdy

      It’s not just words. It’s seeing our country torn apart piece-by-piece and given to the Third World. Trillions disapearing into black holes. Our highest respresentative apologizing in our name and glorifying the ideology that killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11. The gov. cancelling mining and fishing permits, putting our oil and gas off limits, but letting China and Brazil drill right off our coast. Things like that.

  • http://tucsoncitizen.com/fortbuckley/2011/01/15/did-eric-boehlert-research-james-eric-fuller-before-championing-him/ ChiTownExpress

    You mean cut him some slack like the cops cut Loughner slack.. 5 times? It’s good Mr. Fullers is receiving the involuntary mental health exam after his threats. Liberals always have an excuse for their bad behavior. If the shoe had been on the other foot and it had been the tea party member threatening, would you have been as compassionate? Doubt it. Enjoy your stay in the rubber room Mr. Fullers. And please, take some fellow unhinged liberals with you. If this tragedy has taught us nothing else, we need to be more vigilant about identifying and seeking help for threatening people. I cut Mr Fullers no slack. He was an angry partisan hack long before he was shot. Get some help for your Conservative Derangement Syndrome Mr. Fuller.

    • socco

      What is strange? Loughner is obsessed with “conscience dreaming”,  and “mind control”.   And Fuller seems to have a thing for hypnosis…
       
      http://www.hypnothoughts.com/profile/JamesEricFuller
       
       
       

    • cochisecitizen

      “Liberals always have an excuse for their bad behavior”
      And Conservatives think they don’t need any excuse for their bad behavior. Funny how Ft. Buckley fails to mention that Humphries said that last Saturday’s massacre was all Giffords’ fault for not having security. So, OK, a guy who was wounded in the attack and witnessed a nut job shoot Giffords and several others in the head and shoot a little girl point blank overreacted to a guy who said it was all Giffords’ fault. I’ll cut him some slack, even if you folks don’t.

      • Don

        I’m confident you’re grossly distorting what Humphries said.  I seriously doubt Trent Humphries accused Giffords of any kind of malfeasance.  So, prove me wrong—post a link/reference to it. 

        And, Mr. Fuller has taken plenty of advantage of his 15 minutes of fame.  (I guess he’ll get a full hour now).

        • cochisecitizen

          Don – Interview with The Guardian UK:
          The real case is that she [Giffords] had no security whatsoever at this event. So if she lived under a constant fear of being targeted, if she lived under this constant fear of this rhetoric and hatred that was seething, why would she attend an event in full view of the public with no security whatsoever?” he said.
          Maybe Humphries thinks we’re no longer entitled to freedom of speech and the right to peaceful assembly, but I’m not ready to give up on this country just yet.
          And Pamela, I was quoting & replying to  ChiTownExpress.
           

          • JoeS

            If she was in constant fear as the left keeps offering after the fact,  then why was there no effort at security?  

          • CourtReporter

            So Don was clearly right.  You were absolutely distorting what Humphries said to fit your agenda.  Saying that “Giffords had no security whatsoever at this event” is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT than saying “last Saturday’s massacre was all Giffords’ fault for not having security,” which is what you originally accused him of having said.
            There are no words for this kind of deceptive manipulation.  I hope you sleep well knowing that you add to the morass of anti-right lies that serve to inflame and ignite violent mental patients like Fuller.  What a joke for you or anyone like you to point fingers at Palin.

            • Don

              Thanks, courtreporter.  Over to you, cochisecitizen.

            • cochisecitizen

              The joke is that you accuse me of “distorting what Humphries said to fit (my) agenda”, and then you do exactly that. I never “pointed fingers” t anyone, let alone Palin. Now I understand the incessant whining from the Right about accusations of blame, they imagine them in their head when none are made. I think no one is to blame for the Jan. 8 shootings except for Jared Loughner. If ANY blame can be pointed at anyone else, it would be limited to his parents and PCC officials for not seeing that he was in desperate need of mental health aid and not taking action.
              And I stand by my comments. FACT: Humphries did say “Giffords had no security whatsoever at this event“. FACT: Humphries did say “why would she attend an event in full view of the public with no security whatsoever?” If you can’t see that he’s saying Giffords is at fault for not having security, I can’t draw a clearer picture for you.

              • timothy

                It is obvious to an intelligent person that all he was doing was pointing out that if Giffords was truly worried about the rhetoric and the map from the SarahPAC site, as many on the left have tried to claim she was, she did not take the appropriate security precautions. The true of the matter is that the complaining from Giffords and others at the time the map was posted was nothing more that a cynical attempt to inflame people against Republicans.

              • Don

                It’s a tone thing, cochise.  In your original post you said, twice,  that Humphries said the massacre was “all Giffords’ fault.”  Sounds to me that you were implying that Trent was hinting that Giffords brought this on herself.  Apparently it sounded that way to others, which is why CourtReporter and others reacted so strongly. 

                If you don’t want to be misinterpreted, use more precision in your language. 

                Actually, I think it’s more likely that you wanted to float the implication that Humphries was impugning Giffords, without saying exactly what you really mean—and accepting the responsibility that comes with that.  So, you minced your words, and gave yourself enough room to wiggle back, as you’re doing now.

                But, to clear up any confusion—exactly what ARE you criticizing Trent Humphries for?  What did he say last week that justifies any kind of rebuke?

                I invite you to place yourself on record.

            • MRoy

              I wonder how much it would cost to provide security for every congressperson’s interactions with their constituents?

              Humphries just threw that out there – it was a knee-jerk response and a dumb thing to say.

              I have suggested he come off the defensive until the emotional impact of the rampage fades, and then frame things in a way that doesn’t make him or the Tuscon Tea Party look like a bunch of violent, whiny idiots.  Unlike Governor Palin, I think Trent Humphries is actually up to that challenge.

              • vladdy

                Oooh, boy, you guys don’t let five minutes go by without dragging Sarah in, do you? You all really need to get that obseessive disorder treated. She’s living rent-free in your head.

      • pamela

        Been looking for a copy of Humphrie’s remarks….haven’t seen them yet with my own eyes,anyway-love your beginning quote…who said it?

      • vladdy

        “overreacted”? Is that what we’re calling accusations of innocent people and death threats these days?

  • Dave

    I play tennis with Eric Fuller two to three times a week.  My wife and I have him over for dinner fairly frequently (including holidays).  He’s a very nice guy, shoots a nice game of pool and plays jazz piano.  He has strong political opinions and likes to argue political points but he’s a pussycat.  He’s been through some stressful times this past week and probably should have stayed home to recuperate rather than attend whatever tea party event he went to.

    • JoeS

      “he was such a nice guy,  we never new he was capable of such things…”

    • JamesT

      Fuller sounds like a nice guy– if you agree with his politics.
      But he’s a stone-cold hypocrite. He’s advocating exactly what he’s accused his political enemies of doing.
      I would suggest that at least some of his anger comes from finding out that the man who shot him his an old-fashioned whack-job and NOT what Fuller supposed him to be. If anything the shooter has more in common with Fuller– imagined enemies– than anyone on the right.
      That probably angers him as much as anything.

    • tucsondon

      Sounds like a charming guy.

    • vladdy

      Oh, well, that makes a difference. We didn’t know he “shoots a nice game of pool.” Jazz piano and tennis, too? Well, then, he IS a nice person!

    • JC

      Eric Fuller is a danger to himself and others and should be locked up indefinitely to protect both him and society at large.
      If Loughner had gotten the same treatment this tragedy could have been avoided. But the Sheriff obviously had more important things to think about.

  • Linda in Tucson

    I know nothing about this man.  If he needs psychiatric help, than I’m glad he’s getting it.  After all, he did just live through a very traumatic, and very public event.

    That’s the problem.  One group wants to paint the other group – millions of them, as all the same.  Period.  Dems do it.  Reps do it.  People who hate both parties do it.
    I’m a Dem, which, if stereo types are correct, makes me a bleeding heart.  So yes, I would care if it were a Tea Party member who was shot.  Why?  Because I don’t like senseless violence.  That’s a human thing.  Not a political thing.

    • vladdy

      What we want to know is, then why is the left trying to completely dehumanize the Tea Party, Sarah Palin, or any other conservative? You don’t slander people for years as racists, rednecks, and war criminals if you have respect for their humanity. I don’t buy it.

      And as for the guy saying how nice Eric is to have to dinner…Did you forget your sarc tag?

  • Don

    Michelle Malkin has compiled a list of threats and attacks directed at conservatives and Republicans in recent years.  http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/ 

    I’ll admit—Michelle can be pretty strident.  But she provides links for the instances she cites, so you can look them up and judge for yourself whether her accounts of the events are fair.

    • Rustyiron

      Crazy to be sure. And yet, most of these people are bloggers and people at protests. Compare these to tea party candidates and media professionals who actually talk about “second amendment” solutions. And then there is the issue of the actual body count.
      Like Malkin (who has an award named for her extremism), these guys are pretty strident, but they have their own list which I invite you to check out and confirm:
      http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/terror-arizona-just-another-isolated
      And this just starts in 2008 and doesn’t include the Oaklahoma bombing. Right now there is no comparison between the level of violence we see from leftwing extremists vs right.
      That said… everybody needs to tone it down. That, or end up killing each other and hoping China comes to your aid. Really… it’s up to you guys whether or not you choose to work it out.
       
       

      • Don

        That said… everybody needs to tone it down

        Translation:  Here’s my insult of you.  OK—now everyone needs to be nice to each other.  Oh….you’re retorting to my insult of you—well, how UNCIVIL of you!
        No, Rusty—if you come to this blog to throw some jabs, expect us to jab back.

        • Rustyiron

          Oddly enough, that’s what I figured I was doing on behalf of Fuller, a guy who is clearly under an immense amount of stress.

          • JC

            ok, so if someone is under a lot of stress it’s perfectly fine for them to threaten people as long as THEY are lefties and they are threatening right wingers.  Does stress also make it acceptable for that same person to carry out acts of violence?

      • vladdy

        Random thoughts…

        The OK bombing? There’s a book you need to read. It’s called “The Third Terrorist,” by OK City journalist, Jayna Davis. Ever wonder why that bombing was so similar to the WTO bombiing not long before it?

        It sounds fair to blame both sides, but you have to be reasonable. Only one side has a pornographic tag that they consistently call the other by.
        (And yeah, I saw the poster with the first hitting Pallin in the face and knocking her glasses off.)

        Why in the world are you fighting your fellow Americans just because they disagree with Obama? ‘Cos we both know that’s why it is.

  • IdahoFrank

    His political affiliation doesn’t really matter.  He is just lucky he got put in a rubber room, instead of a hospital ER with a few knuckle bumps on him.  Sounds like he was way out of line, regardless of his recent experience.

    • JoeS

      “His political affiliation doesn’t really matter”

      When it is someone from the “left” it never does….

  • james barclay

    Right now I might be ashamed to call myself an American after I’ve heard all the vitriol, finger pointing, name calling, labeling, etc., but I’m still American and I am asking my fellow citizens to do whatever they can to help start healing our horribly injured and suffering nation.  I also ask that whoever does not want to help to at least step back and let the rest of us do our job.  I’ll do the best I can. Please help.

    • Don

      We Americans, writ large, are not made of sugar candy, James Barclay.  Vitriol and anger has been part of American life since before the Declaration of Independence was written.  This is a tragic event, but America has endured many tragic events.  We are made of stiffer stuff than you apparently think.

    • vladdy

      Are you aware of the Cloward-Piven strategy? Gramsci? The Chicago School? Marx? Anti-colonialism? Environmental totalitarianism? The new atheist movement? Do you know that there ARE sides, and that one side wants to “fundamentally transform” America?

  • james barclay

    Right now I might be ashamed to call myself an American after I’ve heard all the vitriol, finger pointing, name calling, labeling, etc., but I’m still American and I am asking my fellow citizens to do whatever they can to help start healing our horribly injured and suffering nation.  I also ask that whoever does not want to help to at least step back and let the rest of us do our job.  I’ll do the best I can. Please help.

  • Letscheck

    I cannot help but wonder if James Eric Fuller is in any way associated with Loughner.
     
    They both seem to be leftist who want to create chaos and offer death threats to those whom they seem to think have ruined their lives…even if they did it to themselves.
    Fuller is disabled and receiving tax payer benefits, yet is able to play tennis etc?  That doesn’t seem right.
    Finally the Sheriff’s department seems to do the right thing by Fuller when they took him in for a mental evaluation.  After Loughner’s 12 incidents in which he was never evaluated, and the Sheriff himself going off like a loon, I began to think that there were no sane people in Pima County AZ.

    • Karen S.

      “Fuller is disabled and receiving tax payer benefits, yet is able to play tennis etc?”
      Five will get you ten that his disability is very definitely of a mental nature.
       

  • ben

    I read the majority of all those comments and think, hey are the americans all mentally inept? Of course they are not, it is only some posters on a Tucson Citizen website page that make one cry out. Jeeze, you people are fast jumping to conclusions aren t you! I am a european and here in the Old Continent we are worried that  people will be increasingly  infected by similar tendencies to fast referencing.
    For now I prefer to give mr Fuller the benefit of the doubt, right? He has been traumatized for sure.  I do not know what exactly happened during that TV meeting, I for now will assume that mr Fuller was under the circumstances more easily exitable than he might be in his regular life. Maybe he is easily exitable anyway, or maybe he is not. I think it would be wise to restrain from fast judgement, but restraint is not a capacity that does not seem to be abundantly available to a lot of US citizens, nowadays,  and for sure not to the average poster on a website page of the Tucson Citizen.
    I wish mr Fuller and all the survivors including mrs Giffords well and most certainly hope that the citizens of the USA, with the most humane Constitution in the world (I have read this splendid document, out of interest in the history of the USA) will get back to their senses.

    • http://leatherpenguin.com/wordpress TC@LeatherPenguin

      “I am a european and here in the Old Continent we are worried that  people will be increasingly  infected by similar tendencies to fast referencing.”
      You mean like all those “youths from a religion we will not identify” who light up Renaults when they get bored being on the dole?

    • pamela

      Thanks, Ben….a voice of reason.

    • Don

      Ben, it would have been nice if Mr. Fuller had given Tucson and American concservatives the benefit of the doubt.  Instead, he used his wounds as a PR plaftorm.

  • http://pointmantucson.yuku.com/ mike_brewer

    Poor General Petraeus. He is over there trying to fight “extremism,” with the support of  the fine equanimity of American citizens.

    • JC

      You mean George Soro’s “General Betrayus” — I wonder if the NYT regrets printing that now that the good general is Obama’s pet?

  • innocentbystander

    Did I miss something?  I couldn’t find any coverage of this incident in the paper.

  • SnapTie

    Media Splaters is a vile website with nothing but Communist operatives sitting in their underwear in Mom’s basement with funding supplied by Georgy Soros

  • pamela

    Wow, what happened to innocent until proven guilty? He could be suffering from PSD, he could be an narccisistic murdering nutcase in the making, or the teaparty menber who accused him could be lying or could have misunderstood what he said. A person, with a motive for silencing this man(another teapartier), complained to the police that he had taken a picture of the speaker and said,”you’re dead.”She was seated 2 rows behind him. He also booed what the man said. After the police investigated, they removed him(so, he was at least being disruptive,apparentlt-at which time he YELLED what people took to be “You’re all whores.” This needs a lot more specifics before I make an educated guess. (key word educated)

    • Don

      James Eric Fuller has spent the past week splashing himself all over the media.  He put himself in a public forum, and chose to misbehave.  Now, he needs to live with the consequences of his choices.

    • JoeS

      Pamela said:

      “Wow, what happened to innocent until proven guilty?”

      Who were you blaming on Saturday January 8th?

      Did you attempt to calm those that were accusing Sara Palin and the Tea Party of instigating this assassination attempt?

      Do tell….

  • Jools

    I’m so lucky I don’t live in Arizona and that my relatives relocated to my state. After reading these comments, no wonder the state’s ready to blow. Goodness, the writers of the majority of these comments are truly in need of anger management.

    • tucsondon

      Mebbe you could hang out with Tom Brokaw, he’s skeert of Arizona, too.

    • Don

      One of the reasons Tucsonans writ large aren’t made of sugar candy?  The sugar candy moves elsewhere.

  • merlin

    Once again the mass-movement known as liberalism raises its ugly head spewing hate, venom & vile at those who would dare call its bluff or recite the truth. The screaming, knashing of teeth, the Tower of Babel overflows with deception, manipulation, & propaganda. They’ve gotten away with it for far too long. Now that their feet ARE being held to the fire, they’re screaming even louder about the injustice, the unfairness, and the ‘terrorism’ of those who oppose them.  Of course, these are the rantings & ravings of the lunatic left. It’s obvious to any rational human.
    What part of NOvember don’t you understand?

  • Ron

    Most comments posted here are absurd and hate filled.  Is someone paying you guys to make up all this vitriol?   Hasn’t there been enough violence?

    It’s more than a little curious that the original author, attempting to discredit Fuller, points out that ”someone named James Erik Fuller” is a member of Hypnothoughts.com.  But this supposedly well-researched author failed to notice some claiming to be Fuller joined the Hypnothoughts website the very day Fuller was being released from the hospital following the Giffords shooting.  Pretty pathetic  and sickyou right wong nutjob!

    • Gaby

      The hate and lies exuding progressive big media (covering its hate behind a very thin veneer of fake impartiality) is a great motivator for me to try disseminating the truth on different forums.

      • Ron

        Do you honestly believe the Conservative-invented idea of a “Liberal lamestrema  media” justifies people making stuff up?  It looks to me like some right-wing hate-monger joined a fringe website under the name of a shooting victim to discredit the victim?   Really???   Is that what things have come to?

        And your silly “Liberal media bias” is bullhockey.   The study that purportedly revealed this supposed bias was nonsense.   Some “researcher” decided that certain words were liberal and some were conservative, then counted the number of times these words were used as a measure of the media’s “liberal bias”.   So an article that used the phrase “gun rights” was automatically “conservative” while one that used the phrase “gun control” was automatically liberal.  Even if the article was ridiculing liberals for trying to enact gun control, it was utomatically counted as liberal.  By this rediculous study, even major conservative publications were called “liberal”.    And you guys fell for it hook, line, and sinker.   To this day, some decades later, you are still justifying your hate with what amounts to fictional biases in the media.   And now, ome conservatives are making up stuff when reality wasn’t to their liking.

        Jared Loughner was a neo-nazi who read and admired Mein Kampf.   Yet some on this site refer to him as a “liberal” … really?   If there is any party in this country where neo-mazi’s would feel welcome, it isn’t the dems, and probably not even the GOP.   If anyone would welcome them, it’s the Tea Party.   I know you’ll deny it – but look at the evidence.    Who put Ron Paul in office, even though he would overturn civil rights laws.  Who was the Tea Party candidate that, when he lost, got in the face of the dem who had won and taunted him while his followers called our new representative a jew and spit at him?   Which party brings guns to rallys?   And which party had a US Representative give a speech on gun rights suggesting that gun rights are to protect us from “tyranny” while he pointed at the White House? 

        Don’t criticize the “liberals” while your side has spent months inciting violence with it’s “2nd amendment remedies” and “Don’t retreat – Reload” and signs saying ”We came unarmed (this time)”.   You can’t hold rallys advocating violence and then act like you’re the victim when some ill person, pushed over the edge by all the rhetoric, acts on your hate speech and starts killing democrats.   And you’re the victims?

        • Gaby

          I am hundred percent sure that NY slimes, CNN, ABC, MSNBC and other MSM are spewing hate, lies and propaganda wrapped as news. I had a lot of examples of concrete media bias and distortions. I do not need to rely on any 3rd party in order to explain to me whether it is so or not.
          The result of this hate propaganda are shown very clearly e.g. by Fuller’s behavior or by the fact that death threats against Sarah Palin increased 10 fold since the beginning of this progressive ‘blood libel’ against her.

        • Gaby

          And yes ‘blood libel’ against the conservatives is a very good name for what is going on in our commie (progressive) media.

        • Gaby

          Neo-nazis are not welcomed by the tea party – I was at a tea party convention did not see any neo-nazis there, but I did see some union thugs who were trying to disrupt the tea party by brutal force.
          And Loghner was not a neo nazi more than he was a neo commie – he was a 9/11 troofer and a bush hater.

          • peter

            The neo-nazis was the guy’s with the long nose and big ears, how did you miss them., they were with Jimmy Hoffa having a beer and talking about unionism with the Tea Party. Your brain is working overtime. 

        • pst314

          Lochner admired not just Mein Kampf but also the Communist Manifesto. So please don’t try to paint him as some kind of Tea Party person.

          • peter

            Insanity runs astray in your country !  Tea Party,  NRA, religious wackos, right-wing rhetoric ( fox news ), etc.  It’s no wonder why you are the most hated nation in the world !

    • JoeS

      Ron Says:

      ” Hasn’t there been enough violence?”

      I would say yes,   but a leftist named Fuller says otherwise…

    • Vern

      What, it’s a federal crime for someone checking out of a hospital for a supposed injury to do anything else that day like joining a web site?  Exactly how many “there there” comments did Fuller need before he took himself and his invisible bullet wounds out of the hospital anyway?

  • lsjogren

    Someone said:

    “Right now I might be ashamed to call myself an American after I’ve heard all the vitriol, finger pointing, name calling, labeling, etc., but I’m still American and I am asking my fellow citizens to do whatever they can to help start healing our horribly injured and suffering nation.”

    Hear hear.  But I can’t be too optimistic when the supposed paragons of the media like the New York Times are some of the worst offenders in trying to whip up an atmosphere of hate.

  • Marty

    A little reality check for you.  If you threaten someone you are arrested.  If at some point during the process of being arrested you start acting in a questionable nature you are placed on a psych hold until your mental state can be evaluated.  This gentleman obviously said or did something that the arresting officers thought indicated some kind of mental issue.  On top of that he is “non-physically” disabled vet?  Obvious this guy has issues.
    Even his story about the shooting makes no sense.  He was shot, left the scene bleeding, and drove himself to the hospital?  How did he get out of the parking lot?  A hundred police, fire, and ems vehicles.  Crime tape.  helicopters.  Yet this guy got shot, walked out to his vehicle and left.    Officers with guns out watching everyone leaving the store.  The only way he cleared the scene on his own was if he did it before the first officers got there.  Fishy.
    Go ahead sheeple call me a tea bagger and tell me about my vitriol speech.  God forbid we question the facts you have made up.

  • Sufferer of Fools

    Your so called listing of right-wing violent behavior (since 2008) is largely made up of Nazi-White Supremacist/Nazi kooks.  The rest are not shown to be of any particular political bent.  Once again you are maligning the Tea Party by your Stalinist Alinskyite tactics.

    • Don

      Good catch, SOF.  Apparently Rusty sees Tea Partiers, white supremacists and Nazis as one in the same.  Has Rusty given any convincing evidence that Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin motivated Jared Loughner?

      • Rustyiron

        And no, I don’t see TeaPartiers as Nazis or WS. I genuinely don’t. I just think you guys need to tone down your rhetoric. Oh, and come to grips with the fact that nobody heard a word from you all while Bush took Clinton’s surplus and turned it into massive debt during what was mostly boom years. You only seemed to get angry when a Black dude took over.

        • Gaby

          A commie dude, – no one minds his color. Bush’s deficit was making me very uncomfortable but it is nothing in comparison to Obama’s.

        • Vance

          “Bush took Clinton’s surplus and turned it into massive dept”; go look at the records for the US national debt and deficit and rethink the great “Clinton Surplus”.  The national debt from 1993 to 2001 was as follows:
          1993-$4.4 Trillion
          1994- $4.6 T
          1995- $4.9T
          1996- $5.2T
          1997- $5.4T
          1998- $5.5T
          1999- $5.65T
          2000-$5.67T
          2001- $5.8T

          And if you know anything about the federal government and its fiscal years, new fiscal year starts on Oct 1.  So 1993 ending budget was affected by George Sr. and 2001 was affected by “I did not have sexual relations with that women” Bill.  There was never a budget surplus as so many people (especially Bill Clinton suporters) claim.  Again, don’t take my figures go to the US treasury web site and research it for yourself.  This was a democratic political “ignorance” test to see how many folks could be fooled and swayed.  WOW…and there are still folks out there believing it.  I’m not angry that a black dud took over either, I’m angry because we have US voters out there affecting my tax dollars because their ignorant to facts.

        • vladdy

          Dear Customer:

          We are writing to inform you that your race card has been denied. The program is being halted due to widespread abuse and fraud. Thare are no plans at this time to continue the program at a later date.

    • Rustyiron

      Dude, white-supremacists and nazis are rightwing. This is not news. This is what your own security services describe them as. To be sure, they are far right, but right none-the-less. What do you think Timothy McVeigh was?
      The reason people are concerned about guys like Beck is because his views are in line with these guys. Oh sure, every now and again he’ll say “don’t be violent”, but when you are going off about the president being an enemy alien bent on destroying the country, it’s not exactly contributing positively to the dialog.
      And no, I’m not a Stalinist any more than you are a Nazi. (Unless you actually are a Nazi).

      • pst314

        White supremacism is neither right-wing nor left-wing: Just look at the long history of racism on the left. The Klan revival early in the 20th Century had many leftist elements. Prominent leftists such as George Bernard Shaw and H. G. Wells and Margaret Sanger were frankly racist.
        Furthermore, the Nazis were leftists. Remember “National Socialist German Workers Party”? Fascism and Nazism were heresies of Marxism, which split from the international varieties of socialism after WWI as expressions of the desires of many on the left to embrace socialism without abandoning nationalism.

      • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/blogs/light_v_dark/i-think-its-soooo-groovy-now-people-finally-gittin-togetha-2401/ darkvlight

        You lose the argument, the second you call somebody Dude, Dude.
        http://www.freestaterevolution.com/?p=553 Dims have always been the party of slavery and hate.

        The real “smack-in-the-face” to the left is the fact that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was indeed a Republican. This is one that liberals have lived in denial about for decades. And while they act like they “own” MLK, they also have held up John F. Kennedy as a saint as well. They ignore the fact that JFK, himself, voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Law pushed by Republican President Dwight Eisenhower. JFK also opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.- a march that was organized by a black Republican A. Phillip Randolph (bet you didn’t know that one).
        Liberals won’t talk about the fact it was JFK who authorized the FBI to wiretap and investigate MLK (yeah, they thought he was a communist too). While many on the left would point to the wonderful phone call made by JFK to let MLK out of the Birmingham jail, it was agreed to (grudgingly) at the request of Dr. King Sr.

  • TheRebel

    Don, bravo!
    At least you don’t delete comments because you don’t like them!
    Like a ‘progressive’ on this board.
     
    Thanks!
    TheReb
     

  • TheRebel

    BTW:
    I have registered many times and never get the email to lock in my account.
    Mark Evans screens new users because if they get registered they can comment without being approved.  Very censored and unfair. I have sent many emails to him to raise this issue.
    FYI
    Later
     

    • Cherlyn Gardner Strong

      Rebel, I’m a blogger on Tucson Citizen and most of my comments go through moderation. I often have to approve myself on my own threads, or I depend on others to approve me on theirs. Since we got rid of Captcha, there are other security measures in place that cause this inconvenience…I do understand your frustration.

      • TheRebel

        Thank you very much for the feedback!
        Appreciated.
         

  • Silverback

    John from Tucson, let me, with the utmost civility, invite you to cram it. Mr. Fuller is a vicious bigot who blamed innocent people for the death of a little girl, and is apparently a purveyor of violence and disrespect toward those who disagree with him.

    If he really is your friend, go help him get some treatment and a clue, or take him to church or something instead of spending your time on the net harassing people who have told the truth about his actions without spin or rancor.

    • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/blogs/light_v_dark/i-think-its-soooo-groovy-now-people-finally-gittin-togetha-2401/ darkvlight

      Silver,

      A theme of mine, that seems to get my posts erased, every time I mention something on it…is that Leftism is a Religion, albeit an evil one.

      I’ve seen a couple of lists on this discussion on how rotten rednecks with GUNS are rampaging around, slaughtering all, especially their PROPS, People Of Colour.

      M. Scott Peck called these poor depraved, evil narcissists…PEOPLE OF THE LIE.
      The Demonocrats who have always worshipped POWER and each other, are the party of Racism, Hatred and murder.

      Here’s a list for you…

      ASTONISHING HISTORY OF DEMOCRAT RACISM
      Democrats have ALWAYS been the Party of Slavery and Racism

      http://www.nodnc.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=401

      United States History of Racism Against Blacks

      The Republican Party was formed in 1854 specifically to oppose the Democrats, and for more than 150 years, they have done everything they could to block the Democrat agenda. In their abuses of power, they have even used threats and military violence to thwart the Democrat Party’s attempts to make this a progressive country. As you read the following Republican atrocities that span three centuries, imagine if you will, what a far different nation the United States would be had not the Republicans been around to block the Democrats’ efforts.

      March 20, 1854 Opponents of Democrats’ pro-slavery policies meet in Ripon, Wisconsin to establish the Republican Party

      May 30, 1854 Democrat President Franklin Pierce signs Democrats’ Kansas-Nebraska Act, expanding slavery into U.S. territories; opponents unite to form the Republican Party

      June 16, 1854 Newspaper editor Horace Greeley calls on opponents of slavery to unite in the Republican Party

      July 6, 1854 First state Republican Party officially organized in Jackson, Michigan, to oppose Democrats’ pro-slavery policies

      February 11, 1856 Republican Montgomery Blair argues before U.S. Supreme Court on behalf of his client, the slave Dred Scott; later served in President Lincoln’s Cabinet

      February 22, 1856 First national meeting of the Republican Party, in Pittsburgh, to coordinate opposition to Democrats’ pro-slavery policies

      The list  goes on and on.
      Whittaker Chambers an American Communist, turned human being, said something like this…Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks…GUILT DOES.  Leftists get absolutely hysterical about…WHAT DO THEY NOT GET HYSTERICAL OVER?

      • http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/blogs/light_v_dark/i-think-its-soooo-groovy-now-people-finally-gittin-togetha-2401/ darkvlight

        Holy Cow…The author of this article made a typo…

         As you read the following Republican Democratic atrocities that span three centuries, imagine if you will, what a far different nation the United States would be had not the Republicans been around to block the Democrats’ efforts.

  • Vince Ross

    Recently on Democracy Now radio show Mr Fuller asked “How many other demented people are out there?”
     
    Judging from your recent actions of threatening the life of a tea party leader… I think we can safely say there is at least one more.

  • Richard F.l White

    It is interesting that, if you ask a American Rightist to be civil in their discourse on political matters -  they claim you’re trying to take away their 1st Amendment rights.

  • Walter

    From the Hypnothoughts entry “I use extraordinary persuasive charisma to interest blase, apathetic, oblivious and at times hostile voters to listen to the voice of justice and consanguinity.”    ……………………………………… Yeah, “You’re dead” that’s really persuasive and charismatic. 

    Later in the Hypnothoughts entry Fuller described his military disability as a “non-physical disability.”  In other words, he’s kookoo for Cocoa Puffs.

  • Joe Bean

    Fuller’s an unhinged looney!

  • http://sweasel.com S. Weasel

    A point of information: that Benson cartoon shows Palin morphing into a revolver 0f some kind, not a Glock — which is square and blunt at the business end (and semi-automatic).
    And you forgot the ear necklace! I think that was in the NY Post — Fuller fantasizing about torturing Republicans and making a necklace of their ears. He had clearly thought this fantasy through in disturbing detail.

  • Nick Reynolds

    I find it rather ironic that fuller was shot by a kindred spirit. Kindred in many ways.