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You Can’t Judge God!

by on Feb. 09, 2012, under Arizona Families, Armageddon, Art & Culture, Biblical Inerrancy, Christian Self-Righteous Arrogance, Christianity, Clarity, Creationism, Critical Thinking, Ethics, Faith, Fundamentalism, God & Bible, History, Logic, Power of Prayer, Reason, Religion, Sanity, Science, The Rapture, Willful Ignorance

From Jim Wilson:

 

“Who are we to judge God?? He works in mysterious ways that we limited humans could not possibly comprehend. Even when the things he does seem unjust there really is a greater justice behind it.”

This is something I am consistently told by believers, especially if questioning their faith or the teachings of their holy books. The assertion is that God is so mind-blowingly great and powerful and that we are so minuscule we are in no position to judge him (& it is most always “him”).

Unfortunately, believers leave me with little choice but to judge the God they believe in. They threaten me with eternal punishment if I do judge him, they continuously try to take over the government apparatus of my country, they neglect to give their children proper medical care because of their beliefs and frankly they are always judging me and the people I care about. Furthermore my mind insists I be curious. When I am frequently given a claim, I tend to want to look into it. So, in short I have little choice but to make some judgment about the Gods I’m told about, particularly the Christian one.

Ironically, Christians and other theists are also guilty of the thing they accuse me of. They also make judgments about the God they believe in. The only difference is they judge this being as extant, capable of giving reward and punishment, and above all infinitely good. They make this judgment, generally through their own experiences as well as what is written about this God in the bible.

However when I try to form a judgment on the same basis, Christians tell me I cannot use my human logic to understand or make conclusions about their god.

Fortunately, I am in a position to evaluate these god claims, and human logic and my own observations are the only means I have to make an evaluation. If any believers know of a means by which I can evaluate their God other than my own observations and my own ability to reason, please let me know what it is, for this would be most helpful.

Anyway, here is my verdict on the God claims I am most often given, specifically, the Christian God Claim.

  1. The mysterious ways he supposedly works are completely indistinguishable from chance, making me question his existence.
  2. The Grandiose miracles and blatant suspensions of the laws of physics that he is supposedly responsible for as depicted in the bible, have stopped occurring, ever since we have developed the technology needed to document them. Furthermore there is evidence that much in the bible is hearsay, reported decades or even centuries after the fact. Leading me to question why I should think such a god exists.
  3. The claims about him make no sense. For example why would an all powerful, all knowing being need to sacrifice HIMself to HIMself, to act as a loophole in HIS own rules, to save other people from HIS own wrath? Couldn’t he just forgive people without this bloody act of theater? Why would he choose to send any individual to hell who questions the logic of such an assertion? Why would he allow an evil being to go about messing up his supposed plans? Why would he knowingly create people who he will send to hell. And don’t say they sent themselves to hell, he created hell and the criteria that determines who would go there, and further, he knowingly created all the chains of events leading to our every action.

 

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  • Don Lacey

    We shouldn’t judge god.
     
    I know we have these discussions just to keep the argument going but it seems Atheists give up a lot of ground accepting that there is a god to discuss. It’s time to introduce the “Null Hypothesis” into the conversation BEFORE we discuss the character and traits of any god. Let’s prove that we’re talking about something before we start debating. It’s always fun to banter about the inconsistencies of the stories. We do it all the time with science fiction and it’s cool but here we’re supposedly talking about something real. People are sacrificing a good portion of their time and money in support of this “god belief.” They’re raising their children to believe what can’t be shown to exist. The worst part of the whole deal is that people are acting in ways that harm themselves, their families, their community, and humanity because of their irrational belief in the unprovable creator of the Universe.
     
    What about the people that believe in god?
     
    Perhaps we should be judging them. When a person harms another because of his or her “god belief” we should judge them. When they withhold medical treatment from their children we should judge them. When preachers convince poor people to give them money then live in mansions and fly around privately owned jet planes we should judge them.
     
    Nope, we shouldn’t judge god because as far as we can tell, god doesn’t exist.
     
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    Don Lacey
    Arizona State Director, American Atheists