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Mental Illness and the death penalty

by on Nov. 29, 2009, under brain disorders, Health, health care reform, mental illness, mental illness research, parity, Politics, recovery, schizophrenia, stigma
Capital Punishment 2007 stats

Capital Punishment 2007 stats

Lately there have been stories in the news about people that were given the death penalty(capital punishment) and executed only to find out later through  modern DNA testing that the wrong person was killed.  That in and of itself is enough to give pause before taking some one’s life for a crime, but what about when the person is seriously mentally ill and symptomatic when a crime is committed?

 Amnesty International believes that “The death penalty is the ultimate denial of human rights. It is the premeditated and cold-blooded killing of a human being by the state in the name of justice. It violates the right to life…It is the ultimate cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment. There can never be any justification for torture or for cruel treatment.”

At the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) annual convention in San Francisco last summer  families of murder victims  joined with families of persons with mental illness who have been executed to speak out against the death penalty.

Double Tragedies, a report released at the convention, calls the death penalty “inappropriate and unwarranted” for people with severe mental disorders and “a distraction from problems within the mental health system that contributed or even directly lead to tragic violence.”

The report calls for treatment and prevention, not execution. It is available online at www.nami.org/doubletragedies.

A  joint project of NAMI and Murder Victims’ Families for Human Rights (MVFHR), the report  is based on extensive interviews with 21 family members from 10 states, including  Texas which has the highest rate of capital punishment in the United States.

Most people with mental illness are not violent, many preferring to isolate and have little social contact. When violent tragedies occur it’s usually because the person has fallen through the cracks of a broken mental health care system.  Tragedies are compounded when all the families involved on all sides suffer.

Double Tragedies identifies an “intersection” of family concerns and makes four basic recommendations:

  • Ban the death penalty for people with severe mental illnesses.
  • Reform the mental health care system to focus on treatment.
  • Recognize the needs of families of murder victims through rights to information and participation in criminal or mental health proceedings.
  • Families of executed persons also should be recognized as victims and given the assistance due to any victims of traumatic loss.

Since 1976 when the Supreme Court  found capital punishment to be Constitutional, through June 3, 2009, 1,167 people have been executed in the U.S.

Hundreds of people with mental illness have been put to death in the United States and hundreds more are awaiting execution.


  • Bill

    Please give us the names of the people who were ”executed only to find out later through  modern DNA testing that the wrong person was killed.”.  I would love to know who they are and when this happened. 

    • greymatters

      From the website:  http://www.deathpenalty.org  where you can find more info.  This was the first site found with a simple google search.  I’m sure there are more names out there with more clear cut evidence. There ae many articles and television news programs on the subject.  My point, as “leftfield”  says in his reply is that I’m just trying to help out some people with mental illness.

      There is no way to tell how many of the over 1,000 people executed since 1976 may also have been innocent. Courts do not generally entertain claims of innocence when the defendant is dead. Defense attorneys move on to other cases where clients’ lives can still be saved. Some cases with strong evidence of innocence include:
      Carlos DeLuna Texas Conviction: 1983, Executed: 1989
      Ruben Cantu Texas Convicted: 1985, Executed: 1993
      Larry Griffin Missouri Conviction: 1981, Executed: 1995
      Joseph O’Dell Virginia Conviction: 1986, Executed: 1997
      David Spence Texas Conviction: 1984, Executed: 1997
      Leo Jones Florida Convicted: 1981, Executed: 1998
      Gary Graham Texas Convicted: 1981, Executed: 2000
      Cameron Willingham Texas Convicted: 1992, Executed: 2004″

  • Ado

    “The death penalty is the ultimate denial of human rights.” ??
    Apparently, these amnesty bleeding hearts are of the opinion that cold blooded killers who have murdered other human beings and deprived these victims of their human rights, somehow deserve the same rights they have deprived their victims of.  IMO, when a killer deprives someone or their life, the only right that killer has left is a right to a speedy and fair trial.  Any killer has forfeited any rights they once enjoyed by their own murderous acts. Amnesty International is being quite contemptuous of the murder victims and the murder victims family and friends.  It appears killer’s rights are way more important to them.

    • radmax

      Well said Ado, you beat me to it. It seems somebody is always trying to coddle criminals, yeah, the same scum who would snuff you for your pocket change. Heaven forbid they feel even the slightest inkling of the terror and pain they inflict on their victims and family. If arrested, tried and found guilty of a capital crime, let ‘em swing. DNA should speed the process.

    • leftfield

      Ado, you never fail.  Right straight down the party line every time. 

      • Ado

        Unlike you Lefty, and your Communist Party gang, I have no political party affiliations.  I am 100% independent,  and I have been voting that way since the Democratic Party abandoned the values I have always believed in and advocated. The DEMs moved to the extreme left when radicals seized power in the party .  Once upon a time I was a registered DEM.

        • leftfield

          You must have been disappointed when the dems abandoned segregation and Jim Crow.  So, you are not a member of a political party.  Neither am I.  You are just as right wing and reactionary as I am left wing and progressive.

  • leftfield

    Jeez, try to help out some mentally ill people and the morally ill jump all over you.

    • radmax

      Yeah, sorry about your brother…but the guy was insane, so we’ll see if we can go easy in him….you’re right Lefty, the criminally insane should be locked up….but the insane have a funny way of becoming rational around parole time…

      • Ado

        Think you nailed it, radmax.

    • greymatters

      thanks for speaking to the heart of the matter, Leftfield.

  • leftfield

    Among the many issues that mystify me about the lust for the death penalty is this: why is it we are willing to spend millions of dollars to “give them a fair trail and then hang ‘em”, but when it comes to spending money that might avoid the problem altogether, say, for example, treatment for the mentally ill, there’s just never any money available. 

    Of course, in the real world, cops lie, snitches lie, juries are predjudiced, eyewitnesses are wrong most of the time, confessions are coerced, court-appointed lawyers are drunk and/or overworked, labs mishandle evidence, prosecutors are malicious and politicians are, well, self-serving sleazebags.  God help the accused.  Unless they are wealthy and white, both of which are your best bet against a miscarraige of justice. 

    • radmax

      Welcome to America. Land of ‘who’s got the dough’, but the fact remains, why on earth, with DNA confirmation, should we provide for a murdrer?

    • james

      Of course, in the real world, cops lie, snitches lie, juries are predjudiced, eyewitnesses are wrong most of the time, confessions are coerced, court-appointed lawyers are drunk and/or overworked, labs mishandle evidence, prosecutors are malicious and politicians are, well, self-serving sleazebags.  God help the accused.  Unless they are wealthy and white, both of which are your best bet against a miscarraige of justice.

      Other than your opinion, what evidence do you have to support this claim?

      • Susan

        check out some of the websites given in the reply to Bill above

      • leftfield

        Don’t be silly, James.  Unless you’ve been living under a rock, you’ve been aware of the things I mention above.  Whether you choose to dismiss them is not subject to objective proof.

    • Ado

      In the real world your Communist idol, Josef  Stalin gave the death penalty to eight MILLION in his purges. Your other Communist hero Mao gave the death penalty to an estimated fifty(50) MILLION of his fellow countrymen.   Yet you claim to be a communist and admire and advocate their political system. We have the best system in the world right here, however imperfect it may be, it’s still the best.  If you believe our system is so bad, why aren’t you in China or Russia or Cuba waving a red flag for one of your heroes?  Many American heroes have given their lives willingly just so your kind of fool can post the absolute B.S. you continue to blather.   Try posting anything that’s anti-Communist in any of the countries you hold so dear and see where it gets you.

      • leftfield

        What makes you think I’m a fan of Stalin or Mao?  Makes no more sense than assuming you’re a fan of Hitler.

        • Ado

          You claim you are a communist. When did you renounce communism?

          • leftfield

            Your knowledge of communism/socialism is pretty limited, Ado.  It is no more monolithic than capitalism.  No matter which economic flag they fly, a brutal tyrant is still a brutal tyrant.

          • Ado

            Which Communist economy is not headed by a tyrant?  And… which Communist state would you prefer the U.S. to emulate?

  • Bill

    Point being that none of the so-called list have been proven innocent at all. Additionally, none of them have been proven innocent by any DNA evidence.  

    • leftfield

      Bill, you asked for some evidence and you got it.  What a surprise that now you are deciding the evidence does not satisfy your standards.

      • Bill

        That is not evidence those are opinions. Evidence is something that can and will be presented and accepted by a court as something other than hearsay. Those are the standards, not just mine.

        • leftfield

          and all the people convicted, sent to death row, then later released when DNA evidence did prove their innocence?

          Just to save time, go to the Innocence Project website for the “evidence” you will request.

          • Bill

            I realy cannot believe that you believe what you are saying. No, the evidence/proof is not there about any one executed who was proven innocent by DNA testing.  What is there is OPINION. These are some of the same people who were convinced that Roger Keith Coleman was innocent. Only problem is that years after his execution DNA evidence proved him guilty. Of course they never talk about that!

        • leftfield

          Where is the evidence that the death penalty, or specifically executing people who are mentally ill, has any effect on reducing murder rates?

          • Bill

            Dipstick, is that what you do when you cannot backup your statements? Change directions? Where is your proof about the DNA innocence after execution?

  • leftfield

    And why is it that the same sorts who generally believe the government is incompetent to deal with the simplest matters are most inclined to believe that the government is absolutely infallible when it comes to the justice system and the decision to take a life?

    If you can’t trust ‘em to run your health care, why do you trust ‘em when it comes to running a real “death panel”.

  • azmouse

    I’m for the death penalty, but not in cases of a history of mental illness, or where the perpetrator has a low IQ that would prevent them from realizing fully, what they’ve done.

  • leftfield

    Most of the arguments and support for the death penalty that I see here, as well as elsewhere, are emotional in nature.  The common theme seems to be anger directed towards the accused or convicted; anger at the crime and the criminal.  This does make sense; to be angry about murder.  Emotion is normal, natural and a good thing in general.  It is not, however, a rational basis for a system of justice. 

  • leftfield

    Ado sez: “Which Communist economy is not headed by a tyrant?  And… which Communist state would you prefer the U.S. to emulate?”

    Oh, I think the US doesn’t have to go even that far to improve our situation.  With a few exceptions, we could decide to emulate almost any other country in the developed world and we would be better off.  You might prefer the Argentina of the 70′s or the Italy of the 40′s, though I think those would be  poor choices.

  • leftfield

    And why is it that the same sorts who generally believe the government is incompetent to deal with the simplest matters are most inclined to believe that the government is absolutely infallible when it comes to the justice system and the decision to take a life?
    If you can’t trust ‘em to run your health care, why do you trust ‘em when it comes to running a real “death panel”.

    I’m still waiting for an answer on this one, guys.  Pretty soon I’ll provide the answer myself.

    • radmax

      I’m still waitin’ lefty… :) You can’t trust a politician of any party to do the right thing, it’s not ‘politically savvy’ (nothing in it for them). Health care and any other important legislation will committee, debate and die due to outside interests.(yes, your running dog capitalists) They are set for life, what possible interest could they have in the common folk? The revolution is pickin’ up steam, my friend. ;)

  • sunshinesuperman

    Here is a sidebar for all of you who are taking a break from the ring.  How do you feel about the proposal that was made 20 years ago to implement castration and legal reversible blinding as punishment in lieu of the death penalty?

    • leftfield

      It’s a given that this would be found “cruel and unusual”.

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