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Comment on Luke Davis – High School Sports Reporter Passes Away by Angus Hendrick

Angus Hendrick — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:31:37 +0000

I knew Luke as a customer. I only met him only twice, and it was over two years ago that I last saw him. I can’t remember the bartender at the bar I went to last week, but I still remember Luke. He was such a genuine, warm guy. Just wanted to convey to Luke’s family my condolences for their loss.

Comment on 2009 5A I & II Swim & Dive All-Stars by Ted

Ted — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:12:05 +0000

Swim – you can drop the teaching mode as I know swimming pretty well and I am making a point about the system not Salpointe versus the world as you seem to feel.
Salpointe High did not have a single male swimmer with a top time if you combine the divisions – I am not sure what you are trying to say and that is irrelevant to this discussion.
This the medley relay final from states - as you can clearly see you are incorrect.
1) Weintraub, Aaron SR 2) Tidwell, Brendan JR 3) Patterson, Reed SO 4) Sierra, Morgan JR
25.64 55.45 (29.81) 1:19.40 (23.95) 1:41.88 (22.48)
1) Leighton, Alex SO 2) Simonson, Jojo SO 3) Page, Roger JR 4) Hines, John SO
26.76 55.21 (28.45) 1:19.44 (24.23) 1:42.13 (22.69)

Comment on 2009 5A I & II Swim & Dive All-Stars by SWIM

SWIM — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:39:17 +0000

Ted,
2 out 3 of the 5A I boy swimmers were faster than all the boy swimmers in 5A I, 5A II, 4 A I, and 4A II in their respected events throughout the year and after the completion of regional/state meets. Now SC’s relays were not faster than foothills, but were faster than CDO, Sabino, Rincon, IR, SAH, etc..
I believe Andy nows his stuff and if he saw a kid from Cholla break the state record, win regionals in his/her events, and was top 3 in state; despite their relay finishes, that individual has a good chance as any, to be swimmer of the year.

Comment on Luke Davis – High School Sports Reporter Passes Away by wildcatsportsreport

wildcatsportsreport — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:15:20 +0000

Luke and I were “competitors” only in the sense that we worked for papers that often went after the same advertisers. We covered some of the same games and while I won’t pretend to know him well, he seemed like a good guy. R.I.P.

Comment on 2009 5A I & II Swim & Dive All-Stars by Ted

Ted — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:52:41 +0000

Andy – Phelps was on an all-star team. If Michael Phelps had been swimming for Santa Rita this year he would not have been swimmer of the year here even though he set world records as they would not have been the top relay teams even with his splits. No problem with your method this year as I see it but IMHO remarkable swimmers who attend a school with a weak swim team should not be left out of consideration. Food for thought. Thanks again for the coverage.

Comment on 2009 5A I & II Swim & Dive All-Stars by splash

splash — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:12:46 +0000

Thanks for explaining what you meant Ted. I understand and agree. I can give you some examples of some truly dominate swimmers that fit your scenario…not state records, but Raz Luker for one.

I have to mention that this is the reason Salpointe Lady Lancers were so special. None of the ladies placed in Championship finals, but all the the relays did. Stronger as a team than individually.

Andy …you bet we will thanks for giving so many swimmers the recognition they deserve.

Comment on 2009 5A I & II Swim & Dive All-Stars by Andy Morales

Andy Morales — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:22:28 +0000

If we didn’t count relays then what do we do with Michael Phelps and his 8 medals?

It’s true that he depended on a strong team to win relays but they also depended on him.

I was amazed that there are several swimmers here who have great times in 5 or 6 events but you can only compete in 4 total in a meet.

The Bleyl’s come to mind where they could have won a few other championships but were confined by the 4 event rule.

Anyway, swim season was fun for me and now I have all these names in my head……..

Please keep me informed on recruiting news and club/USA swim events.

Andy

Comment on 2009 5A I & II Swim & Dive All-Stars by SWIM

SWIM — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:53:58 +0000

A swimmer can only participate in four races; 2 individual /2 relays or 1 individual/3 relays. (4 events total)
*State/Regionals (even though covers two days) is considered one meet. A swimmer can only score in four races.
Also…These top 3 swimmers are based on season best times, not top finishes at regionals/state
example: 5A I 100 Breaststroke (roger page did not swim this at regionals)
Andy did his homework…

Comment on 2009 5A I & II Swim & Dive All-Stars by Ted

Ted — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:37:16 +0000

These swimmers of the year are based on finishing first in the region in 4 or 5 events – in each case a relay counted for two of the 4 or 5 top finishes. THe potential problem in this system – a stellar swimmer for Tucson High breaks 2 state records but only figures in those 2 events because of the stronger Salpointe relay teams would not receive the award. As I said, it didn’t happen this year, but it could in the future. Comparing the apples to oranges of different strokes can be ranked using USA Power Points as well. My 2 cents.

Comment on 2009 5A I & II Swim & Dive All-Stars by splash

splash — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:01:27 +0000

Ted – You are rightm this is an incredible compilation and a great job by Andy. But, I am not following you. ” would say that in this system when you count relays, a dominant swimmer with better relative times and finishes in State Champs, who may have even regional or state records, but who swims on a weaker team could finish behind a 4 or 5 event person” what does that mean?