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AZ medical marijuana law exactly what I expected – a farce

by on Jan. 04, 2013, under Politics

No one likes an I Told You So but every now and then it’s necessary to say, “I told you so.”

At the end of last month the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission released results of a study that said about 11 percent of Arizona kids in 8th, 10th and 12th grades who admitted to smoking marijuana said they got their ganja from a medical marijuana card holder.

The law that allows 36,000 people (so far) to legally smoke or grow dope in Arizona is the result of Proposition 203, which voters passed in 2010.

In October 2010, I argued that voters should reject the proposition because the law as it was written was a sham, simply a backdoor way for dope smokers to legally get high. The law didn’t require a prescription from a board-certified physician, just a “recommendation” and it allowed homeopaths and naturopaths to also make “recommendations,” even though they are merely government-sanctioned quacks.

But voters passed it and in December 2010, I argued that it was incumbent upon the state health department to strictly regulate the law’s application and keep the medical in the “medical” marijuana law, less Arizona become like California where hopheads galore can score weed at will simply because they have “pain.”

About the same time the commission released its study, the Arizona Republic reported that of the people who had received recommendations for medical weed, barely 10 percent were getting it to treat illnesses whose symptoms marijuana is suspected of helping alleviate, cancer and glaucoma patients in particular.

The remaining 90 percent needed marijuana to relieve their “pain.”

The horrible tragedy of those statistics is that it makes a mockery of people who legitimately suffer from chronic pain and for whom marijuana might provide some relief. All these slackers getting bogus “pain” referrals make it harder for true pain suffers to be taken seriously.

The other tragedy of this farcical law is that it harms the cause of drug law normalization.

Marijuana prohibition is an abysmal failure. We spend billions of dollars a year attempting to interdict marijuana use to no avail. It’s still widely available and easily obtained irrespective of medical marijuana laws.

We all pay for its prohibition. We pay billions in taxes for the investigation, prosecution and incarceration of drug users, and billions more dealing with ancillary crimes associated with its use because its growth, importation and distribution is controlled by criminal cartels and violent urban gangs.

It makes more sense to make marijuana legal and regulate its manufacture and use like we do alcohol. Then tax it.

A state legislator this week proposed a bill to put repeal of Prop. 203 before voters again in 2014. Here’s hoping it makes the ballot and that voters pass it.

From there, marijuana normalization could proceed on a more honorable footing.

It would be more honorable for drug normalization proponents to seek full prohibition repeal rather than use cancer and pain patients as a stalking horse for legal drug use.

Prop. 203 is a dishonorable law that does more harm to the interests of people with medical conditions who might be aided by marijuana than it helps them.



  • Ed

    This article is a joke. It is also what happens when online OpEd is passed of as actual journalism, which this is definitely not. So to educate you and your readers on the comparative numbers for actual controlled substances with potential for physical addiction, overdoses and the like I lay out the following:

    You are pointing out that the diversion of medical marijuana to non-medical users under 18 years of old was at 11%. (Meaning 11% of those using cannabis who are under 18 years of old in Arizona obtained it from a medical marijuana patient.).

    However, if you compare THAT number to the number of users of PRESCRIPTION pain medications for non-medical purposes who obtained their drugs via diversion, you would note that THIS statistic is nearly 5 times higher nationally. (More if you combine the % of users that weren’t just provided it for free but who actually paid a prescription user for the pills, in that case more like 7X more.)

    So, this “medical marijuana sham” (as you see it) run by the state of Arizona ACTUALLY has a better track record regarding diversion to minor nonmedical users than dangerous controlled narcotics like oxycodone or oxycontin do under the Federal Controlled Substances Act and current state and federal regulations covering the dispensation of such controlled substances.

    While you may be right about the fact that drug normalization proponents seeking to repeal full prohibition instead, even the charge against the prohibition of alcohol was lead by the “medicinal” uses of alcohol. Which, frankly seems a lot more dubious than the medicinal uses of Cannabis.

    And if you think I am just blowing smoke, feel free to follow up on your own via the stats and citation below:

    “•
    Among persons aged 12 or older in 2010-2011 who used pain relievers
    nonmedically in the past year, 54.2 percent got the pain relievers they
    most recently used from a friend or relative for free (Figure 2.14).
    Another 12.2 percent bought them from a friend of relative (which was
    higher than the 9.9 percent in 2008-2009). In addition, 4.4 percent of
    these nonmedical users in 2010-2011 took pain relievers from a friend or
    relative without asking. More than one in six (18.1 percent) indicated
    that they got the drugs they most recently used through a prescription
    from one doctor. Less than 1 in 20 users (3.9 percent) got pain
    relievers from a drug dealer or other stranger, 1.9 percent got pain
    relievers from more than one doctor, and 0.3 percent bought them on the
    Internet. These other percentages were similar to those reported in
    2008-2009.

    “• Among persons aged 12 or older in 2010-2011 who used pain relievers
    nonmedically in the past year and indicated that they most recently
    obtained the drugs from a friend or relative for free in the past year,
    81.6 percent of the friends or relatives obtained the drugs from just
    one doctor (Figure 2.14). About 1 in 20 of these past year nonmedical
    users of pain relievers (5.5 percent) reported that the friend or
    relative got the pain relievers from another friend or relative for
    free, 3.9 percent reported that the friend or relative bought the drugs
    from a friend or relative, 1.9 percent reported that the friend or
    relative bought the drugs from a drug dealer or other stranger, and 1.8
    percent reported that the friend or relative took the drugs from another
    friend or relative without asking.”

    Source: Substance
    Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, Results from the 2011
    National Survey on Drug Use and Health: Summary of National Findings,
    NSDUH Series H-44, HHS Publication No. (SMA) 12-4713. Rockville, MD:
    Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, 2012, p. 28.

    http://www.samhsa.gov/data/NSDUH/2k11Results/NSDUHresults2011.pdf

  • Fraser007

    Hard to believe that we agree! When this thing passed i figured that we would be flooded with California “doctors”. I was right. I also wondered how many people with true pain issues ould be affected. Right again. How many cancer patients can there be. Or even chronic pain issues. i am sure there are many…..but this many!
    Like “immigration reform” its a backdoor method for Progressives or dopers to get their way. (that should light up the switchboard!)

    • Ed

      As a (to use a dirty word in America now) MODERATE independent voter, I wonder which is worse: bleeding heart progressives using the “reform” approach or brain dead heartless conservatives using the “my way is the only way to live” shoving their “value’s” down other peoples throat approach. I think my hero Ronald Reagan (A liberal by today’s idiotic TEA party standards) said it best:

      “Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.”

      Really, why the heck do people care if someone smokes pot regardless of the reason, be it for medicine or pleasure is beyond me. If it is public safety that you are worried about then time to make consumption of alcohol and driving while on a cell phone offenses that call for imprisonment too. What I really wonder is if one needs to be lobotomized before being able to register to vote as Republican or Democrat…

      • Fraser007

        Good response. I have had two friends killed by drunk drivers. I have been hit by a drunk driver. I hate drunk drivers. I have at times yelled at drivers who are talking on their cell phones when they are not paying attention to the road and endangering me.
        It is tragic that 50,000 Mexicans are killed in the drug wars there all so peopel in this country can smoke dope. (Some of those Mexicans were probably involved in the drug trade and took their risks).
        If a person has chronic pain then there should be a way to provide some help through marijuana. I have no problem with that.
        If I owned a company would I hire a person who smoked marijuana. No………….I worked for an alarm company as a central station operator. That was one of the questions they asked,…….. I have a MRPT. Medium Risk Public Trust certificate for a company that does defense work. It took 6 months to get it. About the same as a secret clearance. They asked the same question.
        I worked for 35 years for the state in a position of public trust.
        Not bad for a “brain dead” conservative. Heartless.yes.

    • ane92

      …..”but this many!”…….

      what are you talking about Fraser007. The number of marijuana card holders in Arizona is 00.5% of the population in Arizona. Not even 1%. You make it sound like EVERYONE has a card. Yet according to the numbers in this article its only 0.5% of the population.

      Compare prescription drugs for pain in Arizona is about 3% of the population according to the latest numbers. So 0.5% sounds about right, that means about 30% of people who are already on pain medications have sought out an alternative prescription for something they already receive medication for.

      It’s easy to rant and rave ‘OMG EVERYONE IS GETTING A POT CARD’. But if you look at the actual numbers. It’s not the case at all.

    • http://www.facebook.com/bob.w.knight Bob William Knight

      in Canada pop of 33 nillion con. est 400000 people could use it so in US theres ten tines that or more way more than 36000 try again to convince us of your bs lol

  • tiponeill

    You are right that such laws are subject to the same inevitable abuse that prohibition or legalization or any law is subject to.

    That is no justification for going backwards – it is justification for going forward and repealing prohibition, which you admit is an expensive failure and disaster.

    What is truly dishonorable is pretending to have the interests of legalization at heart while trying to outlaw our current reform and then stating we will have real prohibition repeal someday in the sweet bye-and-bye – an obvious joke.

    There is no need to repeal the current law in order to pass prohibition reform – just pass prohibition reform. I urge you to write editorials supporting that.

    Once that is done no one will need to get a prescription and the current laws will become obsolete, with the exception for those whose medication is covered by Obamacare. (That’s progress for another day :) )

    This is just another idiotic bill by another idiotic Arizonastan Republican who thinks the Constitution is something about the Second amendment with some accompanying text praising Jesus.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Seth-Miller/100000285649260 Seth Miller

    Did it ever cross your mind that maybe voters aren’t so stupid, but rather they knew and didn’t care that it is a sham?

    I do agree that it should just be legalized, regulated and taxed, but social conservatives in Arizona won’t let that happen.

    But, seriously let’s be honest – repealing the current law will change just about as much of reality as passing it did.

  • ane92

    I don’t understand what all the fuss is about. So about 11% of teens got their pot from a legitimate card holder. That sounds pretty normal and reasonable to me.

    About 30% of kids admit to getting prescription pills from people with legal prescriptions. So 11% for pot is actually quite amazing.

    As with ANY prescription medication out there that gets you intoxicated, there will be some people who abuse the system and sell off their prescriptions. Should I lose out on my prescription to anti-anxiety medications simply cause some other guy out there is using his xanax prescription to sell on the streets? I don’t think so.

    I agree pot should be outright legal like booze and cigs some day. Until that day comes though lets do what we can to protect those who really do get medical benefits from it.

    Arizona voters have voted yes on medical marijuana 3 different times now. I’m not sure why this issue keeps coming up for debate. The people have spoken, multiple times, lets accept that and move on to more important issues.

  • ane92

    Pain is the most common reason people are applying for medical marijuana cards. What’s the problem with that.

    Aprox. 3% of Arizona residents receive legal pain medication prescriptions. Since the passage of Medical Marijuana aprox. 0.5% of Arizona residents have a medical marijuana prescription.

    So the numbers add up and seem very reasonable. What it says is that a reasonable % of Arizona residents who are already on prescription pain medications have chosen to look at marijuana as an alternative option for their pain.

    Articles and studies like these love to throw out numbers to make things sound scary in bad. But in this case if you look at the numbers everything ads up and the law is working well.

    • http://www.facebook.com/bob.w.knight Bob William Knight

      and whos mark b evans to say these people dont need it for pain. is he saying doctors are lying?

      • ane92

        Right. Currently we give prescriptions for highly addictive and deadly drugs to combat chronic pain. I don’t see anyone advocating getting rid of those medications or laws.

        I’d argue (as would many people) that marijuana is a much SAFER approach to dealing with pain than opiate prescriptions are.

        You’re right though. Who are we to play doctor, that’s the job of doctors not government.

      • Fraser007

        Arizona’s “doctors” seem to be flooding in from California.

        • http://www.facebook.com/bob.w.knight Bob William Knight

          thats a good thing soon pot will take over your neighbourhood take over your life then take over the world groovy eh ?

          • Fraser007

            Just the answer I expected.

            • http://www.facebook.com/bob.w.knight Bob William Knight

              you are the one criticising a whole bunch of doctors as frauds ! name 1 or shutup and troll your ass out of here

              • Fraser007

                There was an influx of California doctors who came here to write scripts for the marijuana card people. Seems you missed that.
                “Troll my ass out of here”. Rude and inaccurate.

                • http://www.facebook.com/bob.w.knight Bob William Knight

                  them coming there does not mean they are crooked .for the third time name one doctor writing phony scrip . isnt there a penalty for slander ? someone might forward your name to the dr’s then you’d have to explain your unfounded, unproven, unprovoked allegations lol

                  • Fraser007

                    Put the pipe and I will explain it so even you understand.
                    The Dr.s are real Dr’s. They write real script. There was an influx from other states of these Dr.s to write script for all of the “patients” who have pain.
                    Shove your slander comments where they belong. LOL

                    • ane92

                      But only .05% of citizens in Arizona have a card…even lesser % when you only include people with pain.

                      That’s a much lower % than the number of people receiving prescription drugs for pain medication in arizona.

                      You’re making it sound like everones flooding to arizona and handing out scripts. But the numbers say they aren’t and the system is working quite well.

                    • Ed

                      Uh, if they are IN Arizona, practicing medicine, and writing “recommendations” (They are NOT “scripts” as they are NOT Prescriptions) THEN they need t be licensed in the state of Arizona as a doctor. If they are licensed here, then they are ALSO Arizona Doctors. (Even if they came from the heathen land of the Republik of Kalifornia!) If they are NOT licensed in Arizona they are practicing without a license.

                      OOOoooh, California Doctors coming to take over and get Arizonans hooked on the wacky tabacky! BTW- Just because people think your view points on Cannabis are outdated and misinformed doesn’t mean your critics are pot heads. Just rational thinking people who “live and let live.” (Just like anyone who disagree’s with a conservative is not a liberal by default. )

  • Ado Egbdf

    I believe any argument for keeping marijuana illegal is weak at best and not grounded in solid, verifiable fact. There should be less restrictions on growing and/or using marijuana than there is on tobacco or alcohol, both of which are much more dangerous and harmful to the human body. Current marijuana laws make little sense at all and promote the illegal drug trade from Mexico with it’s attendant drug cartel gun violence and deaths. Voters did the right thing by making marijuana legal for medical use. The voters should do the right thing again and remove any remaining criminal penalties for marijuana.

  • scott

    Everyone is a quack because Mark Evans knows better. The law is a sham because Marc Evans knows better. The survey found fractional changes in marijuana use. But it is conclusive proof of a scam and clearly the population who voted for the laws passage are stupid fools, because Marc Evans knows better. Well in case Marc Evans does not know surveys are far from scientific. But I guess it’s enough of a “thread” to prove his ridiculos point. What a joke.

  • cohara1103

    the one thing your missing in your “i told you so” is someone who cares…….
    then i guess the next step should be to just legalize it and end the farce wasnt like 8th 9th 10th graders couldnt get it in 2009

  • http://www.facebook.com/macm25 Corey Miller

    Good luck trying to get this argument to stick! I wonder how you or your friends profit from the prohibition of marijuana?