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Mitt Romney likes Medicare Advantage

by on Aug. 17, 2012, under Health

Yesterday, Mitt Romney did his white board presentation comparing President Obama’s plans for Medicare to his own. Romney painted a bleak picture of Medicare under Obama, and offered his own vision for the program that provides health insurance to 48 million Americans. Romney said his plan for Medicare would be “very much like what we have today with Medicare Advantage”.

Currently, nearly 30% of Medicare beneficiaries are enrolled in Medicare Advantage plans across the country. Medicare Advantage enrollment is around 50%  in cities such as Phoenix, Tucson, Philadelphia, Buffalo, and Miami (and many more).

Medicare Advantage plans receive a base payment of around $800 per month from Medicare for each person enrolled with them. In Florida, plans get $1,100 per person per month. With this “premium” paid by Medicare, Advantage plans pay the medical bills for their members.

People enrolled in Medicare Advantage plans have co-pays for every medical service they receive, and this is very similar to the kind of health insurance they had through their employers (if they worked for a large employer and had good coverage).  If people are healthy, they will have very low out-of-pocket costs in a given year. If they get sick, their out-of-pocket costs are currently capped at $6,700 per year (or lower depending on their plan).

I think Medicare Advantage could be a good business model for Medicare except for a few things:

Capping Medicare costs: Payments to Advantage plans are risk adjusted, so Medicare pays more for people who are sicker and more costly for the plans. Medicare’s payout is not capped under the current system.  Ryan and Romney would cap what Medicare pays for each person’s coverage, so the risk would shift from Medicare to insurance companies.  Why would insurance companies take on this risk?  I suppose they would raise their premiums each year to make sure they make a profit. But if Medicare “vouchers” do not increase enough, will seniors have to pay the difference? What if they can’t pay the higher premium each year?

Competition is costly: Ryan and Romney say competition among Advantage plans will keep costs down, but competition requires advertising and big salaries for management. Today’s Advantage plans have administrative costs (including profit) of around 15% of their total revenue.  Original Medicare, which doesn’t do much advertising and doesn’t pay million dollar salaries, has administrative costs of around 4-5% of its budget.

Profits: Advantage plans get to make a profit from doing business with Medicare. If Advantage plans have a 5% profit margin, let’s do the math. Medicare spent $486 billion in 2011.  $486 billion x .05% =  over $24 billion. That’s profit going to insurance companies rather than staying in the Medicare Trust Fund.

Questions for Mitt:

I’d like to ask Mitt Romney how he can justify $24 billion every year going to insurance company profits under his version of Medicare.

Mitt also pointed out in his whiteboard presentation that Obamacare payment cuts to Medicare Advantage plans will cause insurance companies to cancel plans around the country. He said four million people will lose their Advantage plan under Obama.

I’d like to ask Mitt Romney if he thinks it’s okay for Medicare to spend more money on seniors in Medicare Advantage plans than those on Original Medicare. If Advantage plans are not saving Medicare money, is that a good deal for Medicare? And if it’s not a cost-saving model now, how will it be under his version of the program?

 

 

 

 

 

 



  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Wisneski/755600283 Jason Wisneski

    you are an idiot. medicare advantage plans receive more money per enrolle, because it is based on RISK you fool! They have the SICKEST enrollees on their books! The people on original medicare are mostly also on medicare supplement plans which are not guarnateed issue. So those people are healtheir & wealthier. Medicare advantage has people on disability, diabetics, etc. because they cannot refuse coverage based on pre-existing conditions (ESRD the only exception). If those people were on Original Medicare costs would be even higher. This is demonstrated by Medicare advantage plans having a 27 % less hospitalization rate than enrollees on Original Medicare despite having sicker patients….

    • Denise_Early

      Jason, you have it backwards. Medicare Advantage attracts healthier seniors while Medicare supplements (which are “guaranteed issue” for the first six months of a person’s Medicare coverage) are more cost-efficient for people with health problems. I’m in the business of Medicare Advantage and Medigap, and I can tell you this is the case.

      A person turning 65 who is healthy sees Medicare Advantage as a good deal because they will “pay as they go” for their medical care (especially if they have a zero premium Advantage plan).

      If a person is turning 65 and has health problems, Medicare supplements require them to pay up front, but then they have limited co-pays, or even no co-pays for their medical care (with Plan F).

      I have spoken to a college professor who has studied Medicare claims, and he told me people with full coverage (no co-pays) use the medical system more. Maybe this is because they are sick – or maybe because they’ve already paid for full insurance coverage, so there is no “speed bump” to keep them from seeking a second opinion or more services.

      Having worked with Medicare clients for seven years, I can see that people in Medicare Advantage plans get older and sicker – though I have plenty of 80-year old clients who are very healthy. When they do get sicker, they will have to pay the co-pays that go with their Medicare Advantage plan.

      I tell people who are thinking about enrolling in Medicare Advantage that they should put money aside each month so they will have the funds to pay their co-pays when/if they get sick. People with money can do this, but many of my clients are living on less than $1,200 Social Security checks and don’t have the extra cash to put aside.

      • Denise_Early

        Jason may be referring to Medicare Advantage plans for people with chronic illnesses or people on Medicaid. I agree that these folks are sicker than the average senior or disabled person. These “Special Needs Plans” receive quite a bit more money from Medicare and are supposed to provide more services for their members. But the vast majority of people enrolled in Medicare Advantage plans are not in special needs plans.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Howard-Ellis/35907432 Howard Ellis

    Competition lowers, rather than raises, costs and prices. Look at public education compared to private education. Private schools (e.g. Catholic schools) provide a better education in a safer environment for much less than many public schools. They spend far less on admin costs and deliver services much more efficiently. Do you think that if the US had one (government-run)
    automobile manufacturer that the cost of cars would go down and the quality up?

  • Superboy 60

    You are absolutely correcty. MA is for people who are healthy, and for those who are turning 65, since people turning 65 do not have to answer any underwriting questions, except for special issues, which is beyond the scope of this post.

    Obama is the answer. Our President Elect shall remain the choice of voting Americans. Why? Because there are more “have-nots” than “haves.” Simple, right?

  • Keith

    Medicare Advantage is 17% more subsidized than traditional and never argues. Their negotiated writedown with providers adverages 45%.

    I dont need separate policies for additional coverage or drugs.
    They use proactive software screening to reject fraudulent claims..like most ins co.

    Medicare uses post pay recovery auditors …the dumb expensive way.

    Heres my chack for additional 17 bucks a month for the next year..now shove Oibamacare in your ear.

    Oh and Advantage providers deal with one admin group..not two or three.

    • Denise

      Keith: providers (doctors, labs, hospitals, etc) are contracted with multiple Advantage plans as well as multiple insirance plans for people younger than 65. And they are also contracted with Medicare.

      You mention “writedown” so I assume you believe the medical billsmyou receive where there is a big number and then the provider accepts rhe insurance company payment – poor things have to give up sooo much money, how do they stay in business? Thr truth is that they negotiated the payment rates. medicare has the lowest rates and insurance companies offer 10 a 20% more. Advantage plans generally pay providers the Medicare rate.

      Medicare Advantage has a sweet deal with Medicare where they get more money per enrollee than Medicare spends on the average senior. Of course they don’t complain because they are in a no-lose business funded by taxpayers.

      Medicare Advantage is not a good deal for Medicare, so it can only continue if Advantage plans can truly be more efficient than Medicare. So far they have not shown that they are.