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De-Pete: Carroll’s bad decision is great news for Arizona Football

by on Jan. 11, 2010, under Sports

This is a great day for 90% of the Pac-10.

Pete Carroll is about to ruin his career.

I’ve never understood it. Why do people get tired of being great at something? Why do singers want to be actors and actors want to be singers?

Coaches always talk about wanting a new challenge. You know what’s a challenge? Winning nine Pac-10 games in one year. Winning thirteen straight college football games. Doing it again the following year.

In Carroll’s case people are going to point to the ongoing NCAA investigation. But it’s not like USC is going to get the death penalty. Even with few lost scholarships and some vacated wins Pete Carroll would still land all the top recruits. He would still win most of the Pac-10 titles and remain the king of L.A. football.

Is Bear Bryant considered a wuss because he never coached in the NFL? Why didn’t that John Wooden guy “move up” to the NBA? Becoming a legend is a challenge. Remaining a legend is an even bigger challenge.

The NFL is a completely different animal. Coaches rule in college. Players rule in the pros. Did Bill Belichick become a radically different coach in the time between his stint as a losing coach in Cleveland and his run to three Super Bowls in New England? No, he just went from Vinny Testaverde to Tom Brady.

Did Mike Ditka forget how to coach on his way from the Bears to the Saints? No, he just traded Walter Payton and Jim McMahon for Ricky Williams and two guys named Billy Joe.

In the NFL a superior coach can swing an individual game here or there. But if you’re going to win consistently you need the horses. And when it comes to horses, in college you’re the trainer. In the pros you’re just the jockey.

Carroll supporters will rally around the Jimmy Johnson model. Pete will be heavily involved in personnel decisions just like Jimmy. Paul Allen has more money than Jerry Jones. But the Jimmy Johnson Cowboys were the result of a perfect storm. The Seahawks don’t have Herschel Walker as trade bait. They don’t have the #1 pick in the draft with a future Hall-of-Fame quarterback sitting there. They aren’t building without a salary cap. A man named Moose isn’t involved.

As the head coach at USC you get Parade All-Americans to come backup other Parade All-Americans. In the NFL other teams trade in front of you in the draft or sign away your veterans in free agency.

It’s not a matter of if Pete Carroll will fail in the NFL. It’s a question of which college program will get the next Nick Saban in a few years.

So what does this mean for the Arizona Wildcats?

USC will get another good coach. But it’s not a guarantee they land an elite coach. And even if their next guy is another superstar there’s going to be a couple-year window before he gets up to ramming speed.

Can Mike Stoops and the Wildcats pounce? Can they steal a recruit or two from SC’s current class, a la Sean Miller? Can the UA get enough of a head start with future recruits that the next Kris O’Dowd or Everson Griffen stays in-state? Can we break through to the top of a Carroll-less Pac-10?

I’m not proud. Winning the Pac by beating a weakened USC would be no less sweet than toppling Pete Carroll at the height of his power. After we’ve banked a couple titles we can worry about style points.

I’m not ready to say Mike Stoops has to win the Pac-10 in the next two years or he’s a failure, but a major excuse has been removed. After missing out on opportunities in 2009 it sure would be nice to take advantage of this pleasant turn of events.

This is a great day for the Cats and the other eight teams who have been breathing USC’s exhaust for the past decade. I am grateful for whatever it was that finally pushed Carroll back into the NFL. Ego? Impending sanctions? Mountains of Microsoft money? I thank you all.

But most of all I thank you, Pete. Thanks for no longer being interested in dominating college football. I wish I could wish you a long and successful career but it’s hard to argue with history.

See you again soon.



  • Ferraribubba

    Hey Scott: Pardon me for interrupting, but . . . ‘Bad Decision?’ Don’t make me laugh.
    I do know a little about Trojan football, and the inter-workings of same since my uncle Jesse Hill was Head Football Coach for SC back in the early to mid-’5os and later became Atheletic Director. He hired John McKay. Maybe you’ve heard Of him?
    And I’ve followed every game since I was old enough to walk.
    My 1st Trojan game was in 1948, when SC held the mighty Irish of Notre Dame to a 14-all tie. And this was when ND had Frank Leahy as coach, and All-Americans QB Johnny Lujack and TE Leon Hart as starters.
    I’ve attended EVERY SC Rose Bowl since Uncle Jesse and the Trojans beat Wisconson, &-0 in 1953.
    Now, let me ask you a question. Say, you were a football coach with a nimrod not unlike Jimbo Livengood as your A.D. (Mike Garrett), ready to throw you to the wolves in the upcoming NCAA investigation over the Reggie Bush thing (and others), and a west coast NFL fanchise offered you the following:
    1. A guarenteed annual salary of $7 Million Dollars until you reach the age of 63. (No matter what.)
    2. You will not only be the Head Football Coach, but have the title of President, and CEO.
    3. You will have the final decision in the hiring/firing of ALL personnel, including the General Manager.
     4. Plus of course, all the perks, etc that go along with the President/CEO’s job.
    So Scott, how bad was Pete’s decision? Laugh my ass off!
    Fight On, Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba
     

    • http://uasports.net Scott Terrell

      Hi Bubba,

      No doubt that Carroll is now insanely rich.  If that was his goal, he just won.  But I don’t think he’s going to win a lot of football games in Seattle.

      He would have survived any sanctions handed down by the NCAA.  Trojan Basketball was the scapegoat.  Trojan Football is the sacred cow.

      If Pete Carroll becomes the next Jimmy Johnson, more power to him.  But the odds are he’ll be the next Steve Spurrier (12-20), Nick Saban (15-17), Dennis Erickson (40-56), or – somone you may have heard of – John McKay (44-88).

      Bear Down. :)

  • kevinp

    Scott, just two rebuttals.

    “They don’t have the #1 pick in the draft with a future Hall-of-Fame quarterback sitting there. ”
    True, but they do have two 1st round picks, and there are several good-to-very-good QB candidates in the draft this year.

    “They aren’t building without a salary cap”
    True, BUT, they are entering an “uncapped” year, and have an owner who is one of the richest men in the country. An owner that wants to win NOW.

    It is about the best opportunity to turn a team around quickly as is possible.

  • Ferraribubba

    Hey Scott: Let’s see, Pete’s 58 now. He’s got a 5-year, $35 Million Dollar Guarenteed contract and will be 63 when it’s over.
    I believe that he’ll be moderately successful with the Seahawks, but no Super Bowl Champs that I see in my chrystal ball.
    And after the 5 years in Seattle (or before if things don’t go well) he’ll turn, like so many other ex-coaches have done ( Jimmy Johnson included)  into a TV Football Guru. Pete does love the camera.
    Of course I (unlike others on this board, and you know who you are)  I could be wrong.
    Fight On, yer pal, Ferrari Bubba

    • http://uasports.net Scott Terrell

      I definitely agree on the TV guru part.  Pete loves the camera and the camera loves him back!

      Now the Lane Kiffin era begins at ‘SC.  Not much experience but a lot of upside!