Kill SB 1070 by vigorously enforcing it
by Hugh Holub on Jul. 14, 2010, under border issues, politics
“President Ulysses S. Grant once said “the best way to get rid of a bad law is to enforce it.”
If the federal government’s lawsuit against Arizona fails to block SB 1070 going into effect July 29, maybe Grant had the right idea.
There are 3 basic issues with SB 1070:
–the state invading federal jurisdiction on immigration
–the state legislature attempting to prioritize how local governments use limited law enforcement resources
–racial profiling.
So…maybe vigorously enforcing SB 1070 is the real path to waking Arizona voters up to the fact that SB 1070 is really not the answer to the illegal immigration issue.
Here’s the potential scenario:
–local cops start rounding up lot and lots of illegal aliens and turning them over to the Border Patrol. Those of us who live near the border and/or who have been involved in local law enforcement down here know that often the Border Patrol does not show up to take custody of undocumented aliens that are caught locally. The feds don’t have the detention facilities or the transport facilities to handle a major increase in captured illegals. Flood the Border Patrol with undocumented workers.
–since the Border Patrol will not likely take custody of hundreds and maybe even thousands of undocumented workers rounded up by local police, there is no choice but to fill out our state’s jails with illegal aliens. At some point we’ll have to start releasing murderers and rapists to make room for the hundreds and maybe thousands of illegals that are rounded up. Maybe temporary detention camps will have to be set up. Taxpayers ought to be really happy their law enforcement resources have been hijacked by Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Governor Jan Brewer and State Senator Russell Pearce.
–to avoid racial profiling, given that maybe 75% of the state’s population is Anglo, rigorous attention must be paid to stopping 3 Anglos for every Hispanic to enforce SB 1070. Hassle enough Anglos with SB 1070 and they might realize the danger of this law.
If the federal effort to enjoin SB 1070 going into effect fails, then lets vigorously enforce SB 1070 and see what happens.
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July 14th, 2010 on 7:19 am
Here is another scenario! The people that are oppose to this bill set up the cops. Cop stops someone that is opposed to this bill and they cry racial profiling even if it never happened.
July 14th, 2010 on 8:59 am
I’m sure that this will happen in some form. If the legal challenges fail, we are likely to see other attempts to kill this law. Civil disobedience has already been discussed. The law does include a provision for citizens to sue the police for failure to enforce, so this could be another approach to challenging this law.
Whatever it takes, this law will not stand.
July 14th, 2010 on 8:30 pm
Heck, it happens now…and not with just immigration issues. Any time a person belonging to a minority group is stopped by a law enforcement official for any reason, there’s the potential to hear the cry “RACIAL PROFILING”. I watched a “Cops”-type program some time back where a young black male was pulled over by a white police officer. Immediately, the individual starts complaining that he was pulled over due to “racial profiling”. The problem was, his vehicle’s windows were tinted with that black tint film you commonly see on limos…the officer couldn’t even see inside the vehicle. So yeah, that was so obviously racial profiling…via ESP, I guess.
July 14th, 2010 on 7:42 am
Literally, the most asinine post I’ve read. So, if I’ve stumbled through your perception correctly:
1. We continue to allow all ILLEGAL activity, and do nothing
2. We actually punish ILLEGAL activity and put them in a tent city
3. Harass Anglo’s and require legitimacy
Harass me all you want, if it helps in cleaning up this mess, I’m all for it. I’d rather help pay for a tent city and legally house the criminal element than pay for the alternative. As for the thousands and thousands of ILLEGALS you claim are evidently present, you provide no other alternative. Apparently however, you fully support the rampant ILLEGAL activity. What is wrong with you?
July 14th, 2010 on 8:06 am
Awww Hugh are you upset that the state of Arizona is going to deport your Democratic voting base???
July 14th, 2010 on 8:26 am
So your way of getting rid of the problem is to hold our police officers hostige. People that our here illegal are committing a misdemeanor not a felony so the arresting police officer will have to sit around for hours waiting for the border patrol for processing. That sounds real smart the only people that are truely going to benefit are the felons, but hey maybe their republicans also.
July 14th, 2010 on 8:34 am
Illegals can’t vote dum sh*t.
July 14th, 2010 on 11:18 am
Right. And pigs can fly. Voter fraud is rampant in this country. Just look at all the illegal votes for Al Franken. Meanwhile, amnesty for all these illegals WILL lead to them voting. And guess who they’ll vote for? Oh, that’s right, you don’t think. Sorry!
August 14th, 2010 on 6:00 am
Chris:
Please provide proof of any of your claims. Voter fraud is rampant, or illegal votes for Senator Franken.
July 14th, 2010 on 7:51 pm
Once the illegal invaders are given amnesty, they WILL be allowed to vote, dumb sh*t!
July 14th, 2010 on 8:35 am
Seriously?? I am so tired of people whining about how illegals will have to show proof they are allowed to be in our country. We (LEGAL citizens) have to show our driver’s license, registration, proof of insurance, passport, social security card, library card, etc., whenever we want any kind of service or are pulled over for even a moving violation. The police have the authority to ensure the public’s safety and LEGAL citizens comply with these requests all the time. If someone wants to come to our country, I’m all for it. They just need to do it LEGALLY so they can contribute their taxes to the services they are utilizing. Right now, they are not doing that. ILLEGALS cannot have their pay taxed because they have no social security number/Green Card number/valid US citizenship paperwork allowing them to work in our country. If they want to be in America, they need to do it the right way and our sorry excuse for government leaders need to enforce the laws already on the books.
July 14th, 2010 on 8:38 am
“America is a nation of laws; poorly written and randomly enforced”.
F. Zappa
It is certainly relevant to point out that if SB 1070 does take effect and is fully enforced, it will create more problems than it solves. In any case, it must not stand. However it is written, when you look at it in the context of the “No Accents” law and the prohibition against ehtnic studies programs, it is clear the intent of the law.
July 14th, 2010 on 8:49 am
The only good thing about SB1070 is that it will lead to the downfall of the AZ GOP!
July 14th, 2010 on 8:03 pm
Illegals are already leaving Arizona! SB 1070 is ALREADY working and it hasn’t even been passed yet! Go figure. The loss in criminal activity and savings of welfare, health care, etc costs should be significant. It’s just a shame that it took this long to finally happen. It will be interesting to see how long the sanctuary states and cities can hold out with the intense drain on their economies caused by the huge influx of illegal criminal freeloaders. Just look what they have already done to California! Look at Maywood, CA! That could be what all of the sanctuary cities will end up like. Then Arizona can laugh and know that we did the right thing!
July 14th, 2010 on 8:53 am
And lets see how the nation feels about SB1070
http://world-news.newsvine.com/_question/2010/05/12/4274124-do-you-support-arizonas-tough-new-law-on-illegal-immigration
I rest my case!!!!!!!
July 14th, 2010 on 8:55 am
Where have you people been come to Arizona and see the distruction and trash in the desert . I just went to Utah montana wyoming Idaho and did not see trash anywhere it made me sick to see what the illegals are doing to Arizona i can send you pictures you would be sick at what you see here . Let alone the fact there breaking the law not just mexicans all illegals .’ DO YOU ‘ ANY OF YOU THAT HAVE A COMPUTER LOOK TO SEE WHAT IT COST IN TAXES WELFARE MEDICAL i guess not stop worring about people that break the law and help the homeless we could use this money on . I know if i go to mexico and fly the american flag and protest ill get shot or go to jail and not a nice jail like here . S o wake up all you bleeding hearts .
July 14th, 2010 on 9:14 am
What a thoroughly weak and misinformed “article”. I’d like to suggest doing some fact-finding before you try and base a smear on a perfectly legal approach to keeping the system free of hangers-on. Your first two bullet points fall flat on their inaccurate and trumped up faces when the light of truth are shown on them.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/ct-oped-0713-byrne-20100713,0,6263762.story
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US Constitution, Article 1, Section 8 – Powers of Congress, clause 4… See More
“To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;”
Naturalization is the acquisition of citizenship. Congress is granted power by the Constitution to make laws that say who is a citizen. There is no mention of “alien” or “illegal alien” or immigration. Congress has no power to regulate immigration, only citizenship.
The 10th Amendment confirms this:
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
The power to control immigration is not delegated to the Federal Government by the states. To do so would require a constitutional amendment.
In other words,
Naturalization/citizenship is under Federal authority
The presence of non-US citizens in a state is up to the state, not the Federal Government.
The Federal Government has no standing under which to sue Arizona.
All congressional immigration legislation is an unconstitutional usurpation of powers which are reserved to the states.
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As for your third bullet point – that’s a tired, unfounded and once-again unfounded old dog that lives only in the minds of people that are are afflicted with greed via cheap labor exploitation, the lack of intelligence concerning matters of national securty or the fiscal health of the forced tax-paying public or some weird, perverse form of “white guilt”.
July 14th, 2010 on 9:30 am
Equal justice under the law is a ” perverse form of “white guilt”?
July 14th, 2010 on 11:29 am
Once again, your statement is misinformed or intentionally misleading. No one’s talking about equal justice under the law. Racial profiling is a red herring. It’s forbidden by the law. And a lot of the time, those who are whining most about racial profiling are whites who have “white guilt,” a psychological condition requiring professional treatment.
July 14th, 2010 on 9:14 am
The federal government’s lawsuit against Arizona over 1070 is hypocritical considering they have for years partnered with local law enforcement to capture illegal aliens. The federal 287(g) program has deputized 1,100-plus cops in 26 states to round up illegals , according to a story in the New York Post. Since 2006, more than 110,000 illegal immigrants have been ID’d and rounded up for deportation under the extremely successful federal-state partnership. “Local cops across the country are already directly involved in federal border security — the Obama administration just prefers not to acknowledge it.” Which means that the federal lawsuit is purely political.
July 14th, 2010 on 9:28 am
Yes, I suppose the 287 program has to go, too, in order to avoid charges of hypocrisy. Hypocrisy, as we all know, is the province of conservative lawmakers who vote against equal rights for all Americans, then spend the night with their gay lover.
July 14th, 2010 on 10:16 am
Donna a lot of illegals have stolen ss numbers
July 14th, 2010 on 11:16 am
Same to you Barbara
July 14th, 2010 on 11:17 am
That goes for you to Barbara
July 14th, 2010 on 8:23 pm
Here is a great idea get rid of all invaders including those with European, Anglo, Caucasian ancestors. Guess what is left? DAAA!
July 14th, 2010 on 8:31 pm
Larry what do you think happens now when cops stumble across illegals? Let them go? Nope. They wait for border patrol to pick them up.
This law changes nothing.
I knew an illegal “immigrant” who worked at a hospice in town. You wanna know what she did to the people who were there to die? Stole from them.
An illegal is breaking the law by being here to begin with. No scruples = no scruples, no matter how you try to paint it with a humanitarian brush.
July 14th, 2010 on 9:11 pm
I knew an illegal “immigrant” who worked at a hospice in town. You wanna know what she did to the people who were there to die? Stole from them.
Therefore, all immigrants steal?
Hey, I’ve known at least two white guys who were President of this country who sent young people off to die for no good reason.
July 14th, 2010 on 10:23 pm
“I’ve known at least two white guys who were President of this country who sent young people off to die for no good reason. ”
Sounds like you’re givin’ a pass to the current President of this country who is only a 50% white guy and is doing exactly the same thing. Wonder why that is?
July 14th, 2010 on 10:38 pm
O.K. Hugh, so why not make your back yard and home a sanctuary for the illegals? You make it pretty obvious that you don’t want the lawbreakers apprehended and sent back to Mexico.
July 17th, 2010 on 3:43 am
USA for European-Whites only. Let’s use our laws to deport all minorities from this Anglo-Saxon built land. Hispanics, Latinos, Blacks and Jews should start thinking about moving to their lands of origins, no more USA. Support Arizona, SB 1070, the Arizona Governor, the Tea Party, and the White People’s party. Good Job FAIR and Aryan Nation, we are on a roll. 11 states and counting.