South California statehood movement gathers momentum
by Hugh Holub on Jul. 21, 2011, under baja arizona, politics
The effort to break off 13 southern and eastern counties from California and create a new state called South California is gaining momentum.
The advocates of South California have put up a web site called “California Rebellion 2012” and called for a summit meeting of potential South California supporters.
The advocates of South California cannot stand the liberal Democrat policies of a state run by Los Angeles, San Francisco and liberal coastal areas.
Sort of the opposite of what is going on in Baja Arizona.
Here is what the advocates of America’s newest state are saying:
Welcome To California Rebellion 2012!
Preamble
Local governments have been besieged by our dysfunctional State Legislature over the past decade robbing us of our traditional tax revenue streams to provide for state and federally mandated services and discretionary expenditures for public safety, not limited to but including the District Attorney, Sheriff, Probation, Public Defender, etc. After local governments have been cut to the bone, the State Legislature again passed a local government grab in their 2011-12 quasi balanced budget with the same old gimmicky and overstated revenue predictions that will not materialize. I have come to the conclusion that the State of California is too big to govern, that the political priorities of Southern California and Northern California are completely different.
We find that:
1. JOBS – California ranks 50th of the 50 states as the non-business friendly state (Best Worst States for Business Magazine, Chief Executive. net, May 3, 2011 by JP Danian). Following is a partial list of the medium to large businesses that have left or expanded out of our once golden state:
Abraxis Health, Adobr Systems, Inc. Alza Corp., American AVK, American Racing, Apple Computer Audix Corporation, Apria Healthcare Group, Assurant Inc., Barefoot Motors Bazz Houston Co., Beckman Coulter, Bild Industries Inc., Bill Miller Engineering, Ltd. BMC Select , BPI Labs, Buck Knives, CalPortland Cement California Casualty Group, CalStar Products Inc., Checks To-Go, Chivaroli & Associates CoreSite, A Carlyle Company, Creel Printing, Dassault Falcon DaVita Inc. , Denny’s Corp., Digital Domain, Ditech DuPont Fabros Technology, ebay, Inc., EDMO Distributors, Inc. Edwards Lifesciences, Electronic Arts, Inc., EMRISE Corp., Facebook Fall Line Corporation, Fidelity National Financial, First American Corp., Fluor Corp. Foxconn Electronics, Fuel System Solutions, Gregg Industries, Hewlett-Packard Hilton Hotels Corp., Hino Motor Manufacturing USA, Intel Corporation, Intuit of Mountain View J.C. Penney, Kimmie Candy Co., Klaussner Home Furnishings, Knight Protective Industries Kulicke & Soffa Industries Inc., LCF Enterprises, Lennox Hearth Products Inc., Lyn-Tron, Inc. Mariah Power, Maxwell America, Miasole, MotorVac Technologies Nissan North America, Northrop Grumman, One2Believe, Patmont Motor Werks, Inc. Paragon Relocation Resources, Pixel Magic, Plastic Model Engineering, Inc. Precor, Premier Inc., Pro Cal of South Gate, Race Track Chaplaincy of Amer., Red Truck Fire & Safety Co. SAIC, Scale Computing, Schott Solar Inc., SimpleTech Smiley Industries, Solaicx, SolarWorld, Special Devices Inc. StarKist , Stasis Engineering, Stat a Corp., Tapmatic Teledesic, Telmar Network Technology Inc., Terremark, Terumo Cardiovascular Systems Toyota, True Games Interactive Inc., TTM Technologies, Understand.com US Press shifted, USAA Insurance, Yahoo and many more.
As a result of these 1000′s of jobs leaving our state, those citizens waiting for this economic cycle to turn are in for a very big disappointment. When the economy stabilizes in the United States, the existing State of California will be at a loss of thousands of high paying jobs that have fled the state. It has been estimated that many business’ can relocate to Texas and expect to save 20-40%! What will remain here is a “welfare state.”
2. Excessive and duplicative regulations -The State of California has burdened business with excessive regulations causing many businesses to either “throw in the towel” or move to business friendly states. For example, why do we need California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) when we have the federal equivalent of National Environmental Policy Act
(NEPA), causing duplicative environmental review of projects in California?3. Over Taxation – Many CEO’s of companies have moved or expanded their businesses to tax friendlier States such as Texas, Nevada, Colorado, North and South Carolina to name a few. In Texas, there is no corporate or personal income tax which creates a huge incentive for wealthy entrepreneurs to create jobs in that state versus California.
4. Full Time Legislature – Why do we need legislators working full time earning $400 per day to enact more and more useless and costly laws and regulations? Prior to 1966, California functioned very well as a “part-legislature” when the State was home to aerospace, defense contractors, automobile manufacturers that have just about all fled the State!
5. Pension Reform – The pension obligation to California’s 350,000 present employees and retirees is in the billions of dollars and is unsustainable! Instead of getting union concessions, Governor Jerry Brown, in another move to shower political favors on his union supporters, approved a 4% pay increase to our State prison guards with 8 weeks paid vacation and unlimited accumulated time and vacation buyouts! This means that retired prison guards can cash out at the end of their career with $200,000 to $300,000 of taxpayer money! Our illustrious Governor also approved a new budget robbing local government of their job creating redevelopment funds and re-directing them to schools with the caveat that teachers cannot be laid off! So much for local control by our elected Boards of Education!
6. Automation – The state is more interested in preserving antiquated jobs than using existing and emerging technologies to reduce costs and expedite services to the taxpayers. Why do we need 250 offices of the Department of Motor Vehicles? Why can’t a citizen pay their fees online and renew their car registrations? Gas consumption and traffic loads would diminish and long waiting lines at DMV offices would disappear.
7. Illegal Immigrants – This is a huge cost for the taxpayers who are mandated to provide medical services, welfare services, pay the costs to incarcerate illegal immigrants, and due to recent legislation, subsidized tuition to illegal immigrants to our state colleges and universities while our taxpaying constituents pay the full share of their tuition.
Summary:
For the aforementioned reasons, it is recommended that the 13 counties congregate a local government summit at the Riverside Convention Center to discuss our future as cities, counties, and state and come up with an action plan to address the impacts we all share and must continually endure.
Proposed suggestions to form a new state would embrace the following:
1. A new part-time legislature with emphasis on governing with more local control.
2. No term limits.
3. Members of the part-time legislature would receive a $600 per month stipend and no other financial benefits except travel expenses to the new state capitol. Legislation would occur for 3 months every two years and the new legislature would pass two year budgets.
4. The new constitution would have a balanced budget provision, wherein the legislature could not spend more than it takes in revenue.
5. The new constitution would mandate the same provisions of Proposition 13 and would protect local government’s revenue from any state raids.
6. The new constitution would make it illegal to spend taxpayer money generated by South Californians on citizens not legally here in the United States.
7. A new State Capitol built for a part-time legislature.
8. Eliminate duplicative governmental agencies and fully automate government functions with the advances in technology, saving millions in taxpayer dollars and allowing government to work more efficiently.
FACTS:
1. The State of California was once the 4th largest economy in the world, now struggling to be the 8th!
2. California’s economic policies are non-business friendly have driven businesses, large and small, to other business friendly states, e.g. Texas, Nevada, Arizona, South Carolina, and others.
3. California remains over-regulated and attempts to lead a global effort by itself to reduce greenhouse gasses. This is a detriment to our local economy and creates an uneven playing field with other states that don’t have such regulations or those states that do not support the weak science of “global warming.”
4. California is not run by independent elected officials, but rather, by well financed unions selectively funding elected officials that will promote the best interest of their union employees over the best interest of the taxpayers. As a result, pension obligations are bankrupting our state, further jeopardizing our present and future financial fiscal health.
5. The state has not been able to govern politically for over a decade creating a state that is obviously too big to govern. Some state senators are representing larger populations than congressional house of representative office holders!
6. Our citizens are the most taxed of the 50 States and receive less services than most other States
7. It has been reported that up to 44% percent of Californians are on some form of government assistance. We have 30% of the nation’s welfare cases yet have only 12% of the nation’s population!
8. California, with its limited resources, gives benefits including in-state tuition to illegal immigrants minimizing the financial resources available for our legal resident taxpayers!
9. Once the darling of public education, we are now 49th of the 50 states in test scores, and yet we spend more on education than any other state!
10. The state legislature has raided the gas taxes (former Proposition 42) paid by our citizens, and used the monies to pay for non-infrastructure programs resulting in more crowded freeways, and crumbling infrastructure. Why does our state legislature continuingly enact legislation circumventing the will of the taxpayers? This must stop!
11. The state’s recent budget action is balanced on the backs of local governments potentially causing many cities to become fiscally insolvent. This will have a ripple effect on the finances of their respective counties.
12. It is time to take corrective and decisive action!
Such a meeting would be coordinated by the Riverside County Executive office to be held at the Riverside Convention Center as soon as logistically possible. The meeting would also present the findings of the collective opinion of the County Counsels of each respective County as to the process to forming the 51 5t State, testimony for County’s support or opposition to such a formation, and, testimony from Cities within each County, and finally the collective desire to move forward, or not, with this bold but important consideration.
“Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results” -Albert Einstein
Ignoring our continuing repetitive plight can only be characterized as “Insane.”
COMMENTARY: The effort to Free Baja Arizona from the clutches of the ultra conservation Maricopa-dominated Arizona state legislature has no chance of getting anywhere by itself…bnecause there is no way Congress will ever allow a new state to be formed if it adds 2 more Democratic Senators.
But South California my be a blessing in disguise for Baja Arizona statehood efforts because South California…if admitted to the Union as a new state…would nullify the Baja Arizona impat on the US Senate.
So maybe Baja Arizona is not the 51st state…maybe the 52nd?
Then again…there’s Puerto Rico which wants statehood and is Democratic. Going to need another conservative off-setting state…East Texas? West Texas? (Note—Texas allegedly has the right to split into 5 states based on its admission deal)….Northern New York?
The real irony would be that if Baja Arizona was actually created as a new state…and it turned out to be more libertarian than liberal or Democrat.
One of the original concepts for Baja Arizona was to limit the size of the state government into what would fit in an RV, and move the state capitol RV from town to town every 6 weeks.
Another concept for Baja Arizona as far as economic development was concerned was to have a permanent state capitol in Tucson which would justify a huge construction boom of hotels downtown to house all the lobbyists that would descend on the place.
Baja Arizona..if it emcompassed the original Gadsden Purchase, would take away the border from Arizona…leaving all those politicians in Phoenix needing to find another issue to scare the residents of Maricopa County about.
Baja Arizona is a state which would probably legailze marijuana and then tax the heck out of it to run the state government. Would give a new meaning to “high” taxes.
Then again as one of California Governor Jerry Brown’s staff suggested…if those unhappy with California’s government wanted a conservative paradise they could move to Arizona.
Those of us unhappy with Arizona’s state government could move to South California…. Maybe we could work out house trades…I’ll give you my adobe in Tubac for a nice little house in La Jolla…. problem is none of us want to live in San Bernardino County.
Neither new state is likely to happen…but creates great fodder for bloggers.

July 21st, 2011 on 12:03 pm
Sounds like the Balkanization of the USA. So does that mean we will go to war with Southern Califorinia?
Hugh……..get a grip. Maybe I can join the Southern Calif. National Guard and live in Tucson and commute on Guard weekends. Target rich enviornment here!
Its Serbia all over again. This is the frigging USA. If this bulls**t happens then it wont be pretty. Count on it.
Now stop this wierdness.
July 21st, 2011 on 2:14 pm
The southern half of California does not want to secede from the north.
I live in one of the counties proposed as being from the “South” and though we are conservative, neither I, our Board of Supervisors, or the bulk of our electorate wants anything to do with this “pie in the sky” proposal. The counties in the proposal don’t have the economic base to begin to provide for basic services for their proposed citizens. Better to live in a state with the sixth largest economy in the world, even with it’s fiscal problems, than in a second rate impoverished “new state” with no prospect for the future. The political tide will change and California, as one state, can and WILL pull through the current fiscal crisis emerging stronger than before.
One County Supervisor, from one county, made the (unrealistic) proposal and the media took off with it. The fact of the matter is that most of the counties he mentioned as becoming part of “South California” want nothing to do with the proposal and it will get no traction beyond the Riverside county board room.
In like manner, some of those he would lump into “North California” are conservative and would want nothing to do with being associated with the liberal areas. The ideological divide within the state does not occur along “North/South” or “East/West” lines but, rather, is more along “rural and urban lines” with the largest metropolitan population centers being liberal and the less populated areas, especially those in the Central Valley, being more conservative. All you have to do is look at the map of voter registrations by county, and how the various counties voted in the last gubernatorial election to recognize this. The map of the proposed “South California” does not follow this demographic.
Don’t stick a fork in California and call it done yet. Political tides turn, and with them so will the economic tide. As a sixth generation Californian, from a family that has now been farming and ranching in California for seven generations, much of my identity is as a “Californian” and I have to believe this.
July 21st, 2011 on 4:19 pm
As a San Diegan of almost 50 years all I can say of this secession is: “Yeah, right.”
July 22nd, 2011 on 12:33 am
Ernie! I thought you lived in Tucson. If I had a choice of living in San Diego or here? LOL No choice my friend. We are so screwed up here we cant even feed the animals in Reid Park Zoo without killing them! Enjoy the ocean breeze. I envy you.
July 21st, 2011 on 5:17 pm
If you think California steals Arizona’s water now (which they do), just wait until this happens (which it won’t).
July 21st, 2011 on 7:41 pm
7. It has been reported that up to 44% percent of Californians are on some form of government assistance. We have 30% of the nation’s welfare cases yet have only 12% of the nation’s population!
Viva La Raza !!
July 21st, 2011 on 9:07 pm
Anyone can say, “It has been reported.”
Show me the facts, figures, and sources.