Arizona set to build own border fence …another really dumb idea from the state legislature
Monday, May 9th, 2011From the Arizona Daily Star May 9, 2011:
Arizona set to build own border fence
PHOENIX – Arizona lawmakers want more fence along the border with Mexico – whether the federal government thinks it’s necessary or not.
They’ve got a plan that could get a project started using online donations and prison labor. If they get enough money, all they would have to do is get cooperation from landowners, and construction could begin as soon as this year.
Gov. Jan Brewer recently signed a bill that sets the state on a course that begins with launching a website to raise money for the work, said state Sen. Steve Smith, the bill’s sponsor.
“We’re going to build this site as fast as we can, and promote it, and market the heck out of it,” said Smith, a first-term Republican senator from Maricopa.
There is just one little problem with the scheme of Arizona building its own border fence….most of the border is owned by the US federal government or the Tohono O’dham Indian Nation.
The border…a crazy quilt of jurisdictions and ownership
Special Report: Who owns the border?
Take for example the stretch of the border west of Nogales that I frequently mention as being a major gap in border security. The area between Nogales and Sasabe is Coronado National Forest land and the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge.
The really open area like in Caliifornia Gulch would require extensive road-building along the border so a fence could be constructed.
The chances of the federal government allowing the state to run around federal land constructing roads and a border fence are approximately zero.
East of Nogales the border fence runs out across the Buena Vista ranch which is private property. The feds condemned an easement for the fence across that ranch. The fence stops at the Coronado National Forest boundary east of Nogales.
West of Sasabe the fence ends at the boundary of the Tohono O’Odham Indian Nation. I seriously doubt the Indians are going to let Jan Brewer and friends on their lands building a fence.
There is actually very little private land on the border where the state could build a fence.
So this is little more than another publicity stunt on the part of the state legislature to try and draw attention to border security issues without actually doing anything real to improve actual border security.
There are helpful things the state could do….namely work with others who are pushing for better border security. One effort is to support federal legislation which would remove the ability of federal land managers and litigious environmental groups who frustrate building roads and the fence along the border.
Another helpful effort is to try and convince the Department of Homeland Security that finishing the fence, building the necessary roads, and adding some more Forward Observation Bases along the border would be of great help.
Finally, if the state really wanted to put a thumb in the eye of the feds about border security, I suggest passing a law making it a state crime for the Border Patrol to operate anywhere beyond 10 or 15 miles from the actual border. Of course that would invade “federal authority” which reaches 100 miles inside the state to run around setting up road blocks and harass tourists….but the fuss about this would draw national attention to how goofy the Border Patrol’s current strategy is to “secure the border”.
The ACLU has called the 100 mile zone in which the Border Patrol can operate the “Constitution Free Zone” in which the normal requirements of the 5th and 14th Amendments to the US Constitution do not apply. Even Glenn Beck has pointed that one out…and they are actually right about that.
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MORE articles and commentaries about the border
The following are articles and commentaries on border issues and SB 1070 that have appeared in the View From Baja Arizona since May, 2010.
Most recent….
Napolitano promises to change the way “border security” is measured
Cochise County Sheriff Tells Congress That Border Patrol Agents Ordered to Reduce Arrests
California Gulch..one of those places along the border wide open to drug smugglers
If the border is so secure why are there dead bodies all over the place?
Republicans Introduce Bill to Secure Border on Federal Lands, Protect Environment
Apprehensions of illegal aliens at the border are way down…why?
GAO confirms federal environmental laws and federal land managers hinder securing our border
Senators Kyl and McCain propose new border security plan
DHS testifies at same hearing as border rancher…compare the view of the border situation
Rancher tells Congress the way it really is down at the border
What does “securing the border” really mean?
Illegal entry and drug smuggling in perspective…what if all this was going on in your front yard?
Probationary Presence…another Immigration Law Reform Proposal
Drug cartels have made Nogales the tunnel capital of the Southwestern border
GOP drafts legislative assault on illegal immigration
Arizona would go broke if all the illegal immigrants left the state
230,000 displaced in Mexico by drug war
Janet Napolitano: Border security better than ever
Birthright citizenship debate…is the solution worse than the problem?
Immigration enforcement efforts damaging to community, police group says
10 million more illegal aliens coming to America?
Border officials say security is improving…and the tooth fairy is real
US Census Report on Arizona…Hispanic population increases dramatically
Utah avoids mistakes Arizona made on immigration laws
Cops don’t want to be junior Border Patrol agents (except in Maricopa County)
Inside ATF…an ugly picture …how many dead bodies are out there as a result of Project Gunrunner?
Grassley blasts Department of Justice on coverup of guns used in Agent Terry’s murder
Dept. of Justice denies gun claim about Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s death
Is there a cover-up on Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s murder?
Was Border Patrol agent Brian Terry killed by a gun bought in Phoenix?
DHS chief Napolitano living in a fantasy land about border security
Guns and Mexico … be very afraid my friends
More on the coverup of the truth about the guns that killed Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry
Secure the border at the border
Border safe and secure, CBP commissioner Bersin proclaims
Dept. of Justice denies gun claim about Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s death
Is there a cover-up on Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s murder?
Arizona ranchers question Napolitano’s claims the border is safer
Napolitano touts Homeland Security’s border efforts
Guns from Arizona going to Mexican drug cartels according to Mayors Against Illegal Guns
Was Border Patrol agent Brian Terry killed by a gun bought in Phoenix?
11.2 million illegal immigrants in US according to Pew Research Center
Arizona legislators determined to keep Arizona as the center of anti-immigrant efforts
Arizona’s harsh immigration law cancer not spreading across nation
Murdered Border Patrol Agent’s mom still in the dark about what really happened
Birthright citizenship bill unveiled by Arizona lawmakers — 2011′s version of SB 1070
McCain willing to seek immigration overhaul bill when the border is secure
Mexican cartel violence prompts calls for bigger National Guard deployment along the border
Celebrating the New Year in the borderlands with automatic weapon gunfire
An NPR report: Nogales, Sonora — Once A Mexican Tourist Town, Now No Man’s Land
Mexican drug cartels killing their border cities
More rumors and few facts regarding the death of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry
Texas border ranchers face same unsolved problems as Arizona’s border ranchers
Does America hold children responsible for the crimes of their parents?
Feds making a big mistake in secrecy over death of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry
Green Valley News Reports Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was shot in the back
Border Patrol agent death a wake up call to many
Nogales International report on BORTAC and Peck Canyon
Dream Act dead because a majority isn’t a majority in the US Senate
Napolitano confirms bandit gang killed border agent
Some ideas about how to really secure the border
Tucson Sector U.S. Border Patrol Agent Killed in Line of Duty
Mexico a powder keg about to explode
A 14 point proposal for immigration law reform –”probationary presence” instead of amnesty
Humanitarian crisis on our border must be addressed
Special law enforcement task force needed to prosecute crimes against illegal immigrants
Drug cartels fight over control of northern Sonora
Are the Mexican drug cartels taking over Mexico? Is there any doubt?
Border wildlife refuge turns into battleground over humanitarian aid to illegal immigrants
Broken immigration law fuels illegal entry
What to do about drug cartel “spotters” on the US side of the border?
Napolitano says border is largely controlled
Border Patrol agents in shootout near Nogales — what’s wrong with this story?
Sealing the border is unrealistic says border boss
Marijuana fuels Mexican drug cartel profits
Do people deliberately come to the US to have babies who will be citizens?
Illegal immigration trashes wildlife refuge
Tohono O’odham Reservation deadly place for migrants
Are there fewer drug tunnels in Nogales?
Immigration law reform—overstaying a visa should be a crime
12 million illegal immigrants…a resource that should not be wasted
Some difficult issues in the “amnesty” debate
Border tours offer opportunity to see border realities
Sovereignty and a secure border
The difficulty of securing the border
A Cochise County rancher’s view of the border
Is the effort to secure the border deliberately designed to fail?
Alice in Wonderland and border security
Out in the desert on immigrant trails
Are there some areas near the border that are too dangerous for the Border Patrol?
Mexican drug cartels are not listed as official terrorist organizations
Is the Border Patrol avoiding some areas of the border because “it is too dangerous”?
Posse Comitatus and the Mexican border
Legalize drugs to bankrupt the cartels…Pfizer versus the Aztecas…the ultimate “smack down”.
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Major posts…..
We need immigration law reform — Opinion
What does “no amnesty” really mean?
Secure the border or immigration law reform first?
Life on the border — the residents of Nogales, Rio Rico and Tubac
Life on the border — the ranchers
Life on the border — Entering the US illegally
More horses needed to secure the border – Commentary
More on the cartel attack on a border ranch
Border ranch attacked by drug cartel
Ranchers report smuggler scouts on the border area hilltops
Has the federal government abandoned land to the Mexican drug cartels?
Abolish the Border Patrol and replace it with a new Border Security Agency
Is racism on the rise in Arizona?
Has Arizona become the “cracker state”?
Klan types ride again … only on electron beams
Guide to Border Patrol Checkpoints
Are there human rights for people who cross the border illegally?
Who will stand up against the racism in Arizona?
Poll results show politicians the way on border issues…if they’ll listen
Background on why SB 1070 even exists
More blame to share on illegal immigration
Who is at fault for illegal immigration?
How would you deport 11 million illegal aliens?
Securing the border and immigration law reform
What is your definition of a “secure border”?
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More….
“Attrition through enforcement”…SB 1070 attempts to make Arizona the “bouncer” of illegal aliens
59 dead in the desert in July due to killer coyotes
Why Americans Think (Wrongly) That Illegal Immigrants Hurt the Economy
Law enforcement discretion and SB 1070
Commentary on the judge’s decision to stop parts of SB 1070 from going into effect
Do politicians have the will to work together to stop illegal immigration and drug smuggling?
Should SB 1070 have been enjoined?
Was SB 1070 worth it? Commentary
SB 1070 enjoined by federal judge July 27, 2010
Arpaio takes 50 caliber machine gun out into desert hunting cartel smugglers
Is it safe to visit Southern Arizona ?
Arizona Republic Poll: Most Arizonans would let immigrants stay in U.S
Would you allow illegal immigrants to remain in the United States if…
Feds’ suit raises stakes for Arizona’s immigration law
US sues Arizona over SB 1070 — Justice Department Press Release
Full text of Complaint filed against Arizona on SB 1070 by US
US Brief in support of injunction against SB 1070
Statement of Santa Cruz County Sheriff in support of suit against SB 1070
Statement of Tucson Police Chief in support of suit against SB 1070
What if a state said “welcome” to immigrants?
The immigration debate — it never ends
Pinal County Sheriff: Mexican drug cartels now control parts of Arizona
SB 1070 does nothing to stop drug cartel gunmen
Can you qualify to be a US citizen?
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Here are some (tongue in cheek) suggestions for additional stupid laws the Arizona state legislature can consider to purify Arizona and “encourage” foreigners to leave the state: