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	<title>Comments on: El Nino incites wars and the Post Office controls temperature</title>
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	<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2011/08/26/el-nino-incites-wars-and-the-post-office-controls-temperature/</link>
	<description>by Jonathan DuHamel</description>
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		<title>By: Madeleine Grieger</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2011/08/26/el-nino-incites-wars-and-the-post-office-controls-temperature/comment-page-1/#comment-9993</link>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine Grieger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 13:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great Blog I am digging this. You answered some questions I had on this topic. Ill tell my friends about this blog. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Blog I am digging this. You answered some questions I had on this topic. Ill tell my friends about this blog. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: oldgringo</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2011/08/26/el-nino-incites-wars-and-the-post-office-controls-temperature/comment-page-1/#comment-9851</link>
		<dc:creator>oldgringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 19:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it&#039;s all about the money. these people would say/do anything for a dollar. how sad it all is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s all about the money. these people would say/do anything for a dollar. how sad it all is.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheryl</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2011/08/26/el-nino-incites-wars-and-the-post-office-controls-temperature/comment-page-1/#comment-9849</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No these are uneducated people that went to colleges and learned nothing.  They probably spent way too much, also.  That&#039;s what makes them idiots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No these are uneducated people that went to colleges and learned nothing.  They probably spent way too much, also.  That&#8217;s what makes them idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Buck O'Fama</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2011/08/26/el-nino-incites-wars-and-the-post-office-controls-temperature/comment-page-1/#comment-9816</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck O'Fama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 01:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gosh, that postal charge - temperature thing is great.  Once we get it peer reviewed, you can start getting research grants, change you name to &quot;Al&quot; and buy a mansion in California.  The new American dream! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, that postal charge &#8211; temperature thing is great.  Once we get it peer reviewed, you can start getting research grants, change you name to &#8220;Al&#8221; and buy a mansion in California.  The new American dream! </p>
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		<title>By: Wownomore</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2011/08/26/el-nino-incites-wars-and-the-post-office-controls-temperature/comment-page-1/#comment-9636</link>
		<dc:creator>Wownomore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 22:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok it&#039;s not a cause for concern either way then.  I almost thought your postage analogy proved then right by accident that the earth is warming!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok it&#8217;s not a cause for concern either way then.  I almost thought your postage analogy proved then right by accident that the earth is warming!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan DuHamel</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2011/08/26/el-nino-incites-wars-and-the-post-office-controls-temperature/comment-page-1/#comment-9631</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan DuHamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are reading the time scale on the Post Office graph improperly, it goes from 1880 to about 2005. For a longer view of temperature change, since the end of the last glacial epoch (and the end of the mammoths) see:

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2009/07/06/natural-climate-cycles/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are reading the time scale on the Post Office graph improperly, it goes from 1880 to about 2005. For a longer view of temperature change, since the end of the last glacial epoch (and the end of the mammoths) see:</p>
<p><a href="http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2009/07/06/natural-climate-cycles/" rel="nofollow">http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2009/07/06/natural-climate-cycles/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wownomore</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2011/08/26/el-nino-incites-wars-and-the-post-office-controls-temperature/comment-page-1/#comment-9630</link>
		<dc:creator>Wownomore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ak ok, I get it.  It&#039;s really small.  And sure its been rising since the ice age (which they always forget to mention).  But looking at your graph it&#039;s been a nice steady rise since the mammoths and then the last few decades....bam.  That&#039;s weird. Do you think that quick rate of change after millions of steady years matters?  I was like &#039;wow&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ak ok, I get it.  It&#8217;s really small.  And sure its been rising since the ice age (which they always forget to mention).  But looking at your graph it&#8217;s been a nice steady rise since the mammoths and then the last few decades&#8230;.bam.  That&#8217;s weird. Do you think that quick rate of change after millions of steady years matters?  I was like &#8216;wow&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: dnha14</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2011/08/26/el-nino-incites-wars-and-the-post-office-controls-temperature/comment-page-1/#comment-9629</link>
		<dc:creator>dnha14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These people have to be the most highly educated idiots on the planet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people have to be the most highly educated idiots on the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan DuHamel</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2011/08/26/el-nino-incites-wars-and-the-post-office-controls-temperature/comment-page-1/#comment-9628</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan DuHamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It’s more graph magic. That whole temperature rise is 0.8 degree C, but it looks bigger by the way the scales are set. The temperature has warmed since the depths of “The Little Ice Age.”  If the graph had been extended back in time, we would see that current temperatures are not quite as warm as the Medieval warm period, the Roman warm period, or the Holocene climatic optimum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s more graph magic. That whole temperature rise is 0.8 degree C, but it looks bigger by the way the scales are set. The temperature has warmed since the depths of “The Little Ice Age.”  If the graph had been extended back in time, we would see that current temperatures are not quite as warm as the Medieval warm period, the Roman warm period, or the Holocene climatic optimum.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan DuHamel</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2011/08/26/el-nino-incites-wars-and-the-post-office-controls-temperature/comment-page-1/#comment-9627</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan DuHamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post shows the length to which some researchers go to get on the climate change bandwagon.  It also shows that statistics can be invented and manipulated, and that correlation does not prove causation.

By massaging data and using statistics, you can find correlations (or anti-correlations if that is your goal) for almost anything.

This post demonstrates the sad state of climate science today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post shows the length to which some researchers go to get on the climate change bandwagon.  It also shows that statistics can be invented and manipulated, and that correlation does not prove causation.</p>
<p>By massaging data and using statistics, you can find correlations (or anti-correlations if that is your goal) for almost anything.</p>
<p>This post demonstrates the sad state of climate science today.</p>
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