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	<title>Comments on: EPA war on coal threatens Tucson water supply</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cause coal is the only way to produce power. This is just a way for them to avoid costs by looking p9olitical back lash. If they want to mess up the environment and avoid using another power option then I blame them if my water supply goes dry. They made clear they had the money to build another power source. They just don&#039;t want to until 2019.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cause coal is the only way to produce power. This is just a way for them to avoid costs by looking p9olitical back lash. If they want to mess up the environment and avoid using another power option then I blame them if my water supply goes dry. They made clear they had the money to build another power source. They just don&#8217;t want to until 2019.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Lakehomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Lakehomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EPA is a group of ENVIRONAZIS and solar is a joke, just like wind generation. Tree huggers, earth muffins and the &#039;green&#039; agenda&#039; is a blight and DOES NOT create jobs and just waste&#039;s our tax dollars. We should and can drill, mine, use coal, NG, nuclear,  all of our resources until the so called &#039;green crap&#039; actually works and is AFFORDABLE. I lived in Northern Arizona for years going back to 1971 and there has always been haze.
To hell with obama and the EPA. This is the TRUE blight on America!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EPA is a group of ENVIRONAZIS and solar is a joke, just like wind generation. Tree huggers, earth muffins and the &#8216;green&#8217; agenda&#8217; is a blight and DOES NOT create jobs and just waste&#8217;s our tax dollars. We should and can drill, mine, use coal, NG, nuclear,  all of our resources until the so called &#8216;green crap&#8217; actually works and is AFFORDABLE. I lived in Northern Arizona for years going back to 1971 and there has always been haze.<br />
To hell with obama and the EPA. This is the TRUE blight on America!</p>
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		<title>By: Dougwrench</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dougwrench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, they (EPA &amp; Obama administration Nazis) want to shut down coal &amp; coal fired electric generation plants. They don&#039;t want fracking to access natural gas. No Keystone pipes. They hate carbon based fuels- period. The question that is not addressed or answered by the EPA or any tree hugger is what is going to replace these plants the day they are shut down. Wind and solar cannot replace the megawatts that will be lost and are far from meeting the demand. The grid is reliant on strategically placed coal fired, hydro and atomic generators and once taken off-line, it throws the grid into chaos and if enough are taken off-line, brown and blackouts will be a fact of everyday life.
According to Robert Murry of Murry Energy, coal-fired electric generation cost approx 6 cents a kwh. Wind and solar costs 22 cents plus a kwh. Furthermore, he stated that electric futures contracts for 2015-2016 were bought in June 2012 for 800% over todays kwh price. In other words,  if your electric bill is $100 today, it will be $800 in 2015-16. He also stated that China is building coal-fired electric generation plants at the rate of 5-6 a month while we have taken about a dozen off line so far. He asked &quot;which way does the wind blow- which way does the earth turn&quot; meaning that China will be polluting the atmosphere far more than we are currently but that does not bother this administration. The question this raises is what is the real agenda here? I believe in my heart that they intend to redistibute the wealth through excessive enregy costs via the americans wallet.
Folks, we are in a heap of trouble here. I would suggest the tree huggers and EPA officials help the situation by disconnecting thier home power lines, sell thier cars, walk, bike, or take a jackass EVERYWHERE. Oh, no trains, airplanes or ships either. These people need a planet of thier own.
 This is part of the United Nation&#039;s Agenda 21. The Grand Canyon is a UN Biosphere (not ours anymore) as well as Yosemite, Yellowstone, The Great Smokey Mountians and many more around the globe.They want to turn these places and more back to the state they were in 1850. They want to force all of us to live in massive urban areas with mass transit and self sustainability- welcome to Utopia. This is the hope, change and transformation that was spoken about 3.5 years ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, they (EPA &amp; Obama administration Nazis) want to shut down coal &amp; coal fired electric generation plants. They don&#8217;t want fracking to access natural gas. No Keystone pipes. They hate carbon based fuels- period. The question that is not addressed or answered by the EPA or any tree hugger is what is going to replace these plants the day they are shut down. Wind and solar cannot replace the megawatts that will be lost and are far from meeting the demand. The grid is reliant on strategically placed coal fired, hydro and atomic generators and once taken off-line, it throws the grid into chaos and if enough are taken off-line, brown and blackouts will be a fact of everyday life.<br />
According to Robert Murry of Murry Energy, coal-fired electric generation cost approx 6 cents a kwh. Wind and solar costs 22 cents plus a kwh. Furthermore, he stated that electric futures contracts for 2015-2016 were bought in June 2012 for 800% over todays kwh price. In other words,  if your electric bill is $100 today, it will be $800 in 2015-16. He also stated that China is building coal-fired electric generation plants at the rate of 5-6 a month while we have taken about a dozen off line so far. He asked &#8220;which way does the wind blow- which way does the earth turn&#8221; meaning that China will be polluting the atmosphere far more than we are currently but that does not bother this administration. The question this raises is what is the real agenda here? I believe in my heart that they intend to redistibute the wealth through excessive enregy costs via the americans wallet.<br />
Folks, we are in a heap of trouble here. I would suggest the tree huggers and EPA officials help the situation by disconnecting thier home power lines, sell thier cars, walk, bike, or take a jackass EVERYWHERE. Oh, no trains, airplanes or ships either. These people need a planet of thier own.<br />
 This is part of the United Nation&#8217;s Agenda 21. The Grand Canyon is a UN Biosphere (not ours anymore) as well as Yosemite, Yellowstone, The Great Smokey Mountians and many more around the globe.They want to turn these places and more back to the state they were in 1850. They want to force all of us to live in massive urban areas with mass transit and self sustainability- welcome to Utopia. This is the hope, change and transformation that was spoken about 3.5 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott D Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott D Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why did they put in a coal fired plant there? Because it&#039;s next to a coal deposit morons. Solar is a joke and an envirnmental disaster. Vast acres of solar pannels that distroy habitat for everything and generate a fraction of the power of coal NG or atomic. Guess what else is plentifull in that region that we could and should use to make the power we need? Uranium. Build a nuke plant or four up there put people to work sell the power make tons of non casino money on the rez.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did they put in a coal fired plant there? Because it&#8217;s next to a coal deposit morons. Solar is a joke and an envirnmental disaster. Vast acres of solar pannels that distroy habitat for everything and generate a fraction of the power of coal NG or atomic. Guess what else is plentifull in that region that we could and should use to make the power we need? Uranium. Build a nuke plant or four up there put people to work sell the power make tons of non casino money on the rez.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 04:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Julia, water needs to be pumped 24 hours per day, not just when the sun is up,,,,,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia, water needs to be pumped 24 hours per day, not just when the sun is up,,,,,</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2012/08/13/epa-war-on-coal-threatens-tucson-water-supply/comment-page-1/#comment-17511</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 04:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there any wonder why the economy cannot recover under this administration? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any wonder why the economy cannot recover under this administration? </p>
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		<title>By: Bob Travis</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2012/08/13/epa-war-on-coal-threatens-tucson-water-supply/comment-page-1/#comment-17510</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 02:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s painfully obvious that it&#039;s the EPA which needs to be shut down]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s painfully obvious that it&#8217;s the EPA which needs to be shut down</p>
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		<title>By: 4RH3</title>
		<link>http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2012/08/13/epa-war-on-coal-threatens-tucson-water-supply/comment-page-1/#comment-17509</link>
		<dc:creator>4RH3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, they&#039;re already meeting all the air quality standards and emissions standards, and now this rogue agency  comes up with a &quot;haze&quot; rule as a basis for shutting down an important electric power plant? What does EPA want us to do, drink sand?    Wonder how much visual blight could be expected from acres and acres of  glass and glitter of an equal capacity solar powered project? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, they&#8217;re already meeting all the air quality standards and emissions standards, and now this rogue agency  comes up with a &#8220;haze&#8221; rule as a basis for shutting down an important electric power plant? What does EPA want us to do, drink sand?    Wonder how much visual blight could be expected from acres and acres of  glass and glitter of an equal capacity solar powered project? </p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan_Duhamel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan_Duhamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That &quot;added blight&quot; provides jobs that otherwise would not be there.  Also solar plants can&#039;t provide electricity 24/7.  I would not mind a coal plant in Casa Grande, but I&#039;m guess natural gas is cheaper right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That &#8220;added blight&#8221; provides jobs that otherwise would not be there.  Also solar plants can&#8217;t provide electricity 24/7.  I would not mind a coal plant in Casa Grande, but I&#8217;m guess natural gas is cheaper right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia Mercado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia Mercado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just drove through the Navajo Nation and I can&#039;t see why a solar project isn&#039;t already up and running to help power those pump stations.  They were put in a hell hole and are trying to make the best of it and we &#039;helped&#039; them build a coal fired plant that is just an added blight to the area.  What would your position be if they had built this say in Casa Grande?  Wouldn&#039;t be so anti EPA then would ya?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just drove through the Navajo Nation and I can&#8217;t see why a solar project isn&#8217;t already up and running to help power those pump stations.  They were put in a hell hole and are trying to make the best of it and we &#8216;helped&#8217; them build a coal fired plant that is just an added blight to the area.  What would your position be if they had built this say in Casa Grande?  Wouldn&#8217;t be so anti EPA then would ya?</p>
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