Comments on: Challenge to the Arizona Daily Star – get the facts http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2012/10/05/challenge-to-the-arizona-daily-star-get-the-facts/ by Jonathan DuHamel Sat, 18 May 2013 22:40:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: tommeixner http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2012/10/05/challenge-to-the-arizona-daily-star-get-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-17805 tommeixner Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:49:00 +0000 http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/?p=1536#comment-17805 Here is NASA’s press release on the Antarctic maximum. Please note that the max is due to winter processes while the min is due to summer processes. Nice caveats from NSIDC at the end about interpreting the data. http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=79369

]]> By: Fraser007 http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2012/10/05/challenge-to-the-arizona-daily-star-get-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-17784 Fraser007 Fri, 05 Oct 2012 17:41:00 +0000 http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/?p=1536#comment-17784 Does anyone actually read the Star anymore? They are good at reporting the massive crime we have here and trailer and cheap apartments we have here. Since Rob O’Dell left to write for the Arizona Republic there isnt much to read in the Star.
O’Dell for those of you who dont read the paper was the reporter who exposed the criminal acts of stealing the $230,000,000 of the Rio Nuevo funds.
I would never look to the Star for anything on science.
Keep on them Jonathan!

]]> By: Russell Cook http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/2012/10/05/challenge-to-the-arizona-daily-star-get-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-17783 Russell Cook Fri, 05 Oct 2012 16:05:00 +0000 http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/?p=1536#comment-17783 Essentially the same questions I’ve posed to the PBS NewsHour (and other journalists I’ve run across since, including the Arizona Republic), on the issue of global warming.

One of the big mistakes Al Gore made when he invented the internet (note for those of you living in Rio Linda, what I just said there was a joke), is that he allowed it to be word-searchable. We, the average TV viewers, radio listeners, and newspaper readers peruse a lot of stories about such issues, but we are not idiots. It is hard to miss stories that contradict each other, and not being content to simply let that slide or make up conjectures about why one side is dead wrong, we go searching into the internet for clarifications. The global warming issue in particular is a virtual ocean of contradictory scientific assessments, but our friends in the mainstream media continue to very demonstratively tell only one side of the story while making comically unsupportable claims that they either have already given too much ‘fair balance’ to skeptic scientists, or that such skeptics are not deserving of consideration. Emphasis on the word “unsupportable” there.

So, what’s our response? We continue to challenge the MSM to defend and explain their position. For just one of my attempts at this, please see: “Will MSM Look into the Global Warming Abyss and Find Their Character?” http://cdn.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2011/06/07/Will-MSM-Look-into-the-Global-Warming-Abyss-and-Find-Their-Character (some links are broken in that old article, but are repaired and functioning here: http://www.globalwarmingskeptics.info/thread-1939-post-11632.html#pid11632 )

But wait for it, the utterly predictable critics will chime in here, telling readers to ignore Jonathan, he’s ignorant, politically biased, a shill of the fossil fuel industry, out of his league, not a climatologist, the debate is settled in science journals not in the media, on and on. Point being, they want readers to trust those assertions and not attempt to look up this information for themselves. Those of us on the skeptic side have long since advised everybody to compare ALL sides and consider everything they can in order to make an informed decision.

Now, does anybody notice the glaring problem with one of these approaches?

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