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Obama Birth Certificate Investigation Lacks Credibility

by on Mar. 04, 2012, under Arpaio

by Bob Quasius

By now, unless someone has lived in a cave the last four years, everyone has heard of the controversy about Obama’s birth certificate. Just last week, Sheriff Joe Arpaio announced his “volunteer posse” had concluded its investigation of Obama’s birth certificate and selective service registration document. If we take the investigative results at face value, yes indeed there is something fishy about Obama’s documents. As an electrical engineer by profession, I have a background in imaging, signal processing, etc. and I see the issues with Obama’s documents too, assuming the evidence presented itself has not been faked. Clearly there are questions to be answered, and answers to be questioned.

I am not a fan of Obama. In fact, I think Obama is the worst president in modern U.S. history, surpassing even Jimmy Carter. Obama is ‘Jimmy Carter on steroids’ and we need to rid ourselves of Obama, and just as Jimmy Carter was followed by Ronald Reagan, we need a new president to get this nation back on track. Let’s hope for our nation’s sake our next president will be like ‘Ronald Reagan on steroids.’

As much as I dislike Obama and would like to see him out of the oval office, I cannot give the recent Obama birth certificate controversy much credibility because the investigation was conducted under the auspices of Joe Arpaio. Joe Arpaio has a lengthy history of launching politically motivated investigations of his political enemies. Among Arpaio’s victims are journalists, judges, members of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, and community leaders, among others.

For years, if you criticized Joe Arpaio you soon found yourself on the wrong end of criminal investigations. In one case, a journalist published a story, and then unmarked vehicles with Mexican license plates came to his home in the middle of the night to arrest him for a minor misdemeanor, which was quickly dismissed by a judge, and clearly was intended to intimidate the journalist. In my opinion, Arpaio is a serial power abuser, with no respect whatsoever for our constitution, part of the ‘rule of law’ governing this nation.

Often arrests of Arpaio critics were quickly dismissed by judges as baseless, and in many cases Arpaio and his partner, former Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas, were unable to convince grand juries to indict. Many criminal law attorneys will tell you that generally speaking, prosecutors can get most grand juries to indict even a ‘ham sandwich.’ It’s rare that grand juries fail to indict, yet many grand juries saw right through the flimsiness of cases against Arpaio critics.

As a consequence of these politically motivated and baseless prosecutions, Maricopa County taxpayers may end up paying tens of millions in damages to victims of malicious prosecutions. During the last years of the Bush administration, the DOJ launched an investigation into these alleged abuses of power, and a grand jury has been empaneled. Andrew Thomas, the former Maricopa County Attorney is in deep trouble, and may well lose his law license for his role in this scheme. Yes, Joe Arpaio may himself be indicted for abusing his power under color of law. Clearly, any investigation of Arpaio critics or political enemies conducted under the auspices of Joe Arpaio is immediately clouded by questions about the integrity of the investigation.

Now, it has emerged that Mike Zullo, the lead investigator from Arpaio’s “volunteer posse”, has co-authored a book with Jerome Corsi and will split the profits with Corsi. Question: if the investigator had concluded Obama’s documents were authentic, would he be able to sell a book? I doubt it. The fact that Mr. Zullo is profiting off of his investigation naturally leads us to question his credibility as well.

Jerome Corsi has written extensively about various conspiracy theories, for example Corsi authored “The Late Great U.S.A.: The Coming Merger With Mexico and Canada“, claiming the Bush administration was plotting a “North American Union” that would merge Mexico, Canada, and the U.S., without ever obtaining the approval of Congress, even establishing a European style currency to be known as the “amero.” This is one of the most absurd conspiracy theories I have ever heard, very similar to another conspiracy theory called “reconquista”, which holds that undocumented immigrants come to the U.S. to procreate, and eventually create Hispanic majorities in the Southwest and return the Southwest to Mexico. Of course, the “reconquista” theory makes the ridiculous assumption that Mexican-American immigrants and their offspring never assimilate and want to be part of the very nation they fled in search of a better life. Corsi provided many of the materials for the investigation. I don’t find Corsi to be a credible individual, as he writes sensational books making a wide range of claims, some of which are not very credible.

I viewed evidence that Obama’s documents were forged, which certainly raises valid questions, assuming the evidence presented itself is not fake. In my opinion, there should be an investigation, but NOT by Arpaio or anyone connected with Arpaio. A DOJ investigation will never happen during Obama’s presidency, since our U.S. Attorney General works for Obama, and federal law no longer provides for independent special counsels as in the past. This investigation into whether any state laws were violated by the Obama campaign should be performed by Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne and the state police, or by another sheriff, which should NOT be Paul Babeu, who also lacks credibility.

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(note: this blog, as with all blog postings with a byline, is my personal opinion, and not the official position of Cafe Con Leche Republicans)



  • Newm514

    The Lame Stream Media is again slobbering over the anointed one. His father was not a U.S. citizen and therefore according to the U.S. Supreme Court, he is not the son of natural born citizens. Q.E.D., he is not eligible to be president.

    • BajaDemocrats

       ”His father was not a U.S. citizen” – guess what? Neither was George Washington’s, John Adams’, Thomas Jefferson’s ……

      • http://www.facebook.com/68TruthSeeker Scott Adams

        There was a stipulation in the constitution that those who were alive when it was enacted did not have to be Natural Born Citizens but only Citizens. No one from that era has been alive to claim that exemption for hundreds of years. 

        • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

          No, there was no stipulation exempting the founding fathers. The term “natural” appears only once in the constitution, here:

          http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec1

          • BajaDemocrats

             You might want to try reading what you link to first -

            “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States,
            at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution . . .”

            • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

              I stand corrected.

        • TruthToBeTold

          Yes, the ” Grandfather Clause. ” Which is still in effect, only no one is alive to claim it. So now none other then a natural born Citizens with sole allegiance to the United States is eligible for United States Presidency.

          The Founding Fathers were very smart men.   

          • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

            The constitution doesn’t define “natural born citizen” but does require the president be one.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Quico-Reed/569317095 Curtis Quico Reed

        David, your response shows a very special level of ignorance about the constitution, proving that you, at the very least, and probably most of the liberals, simply do not understand the constitution, and therefore mock the whole issue and slander the individuals who question Obama’s eligibility not because they know better, but because they (and you) are arrogantly striking out from a position of utter ignorance.

        • BajaDemocrats

           You can always tell when you’re discussing something with a right winger because the first thing they resort to is name calling, because that’s about the only thing they have. How is my pointing out that George Washington’s father was not a US citizen is “slandering” anyone? Do tell.

          As Scott Adams correctly pointed out yes, there is a clause in the Constitution that exempted anyone who was a citizen when the Constitution was enacted was deemed as qualified. However, Newm514 incorrectly stated that “according to the SCOTUS” – the Supreme Court has never directly addressed the question of a specific presidential or
          vice-presidential candidate’s eligibility as a natural-born citizen. However, Congressional Research Service
          has stated that the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion
          indicates that the term means one who is entitled under the Constitution
          or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship “at birth” or “by birth,”
          including any child born “in” the United States, even to alien parents
          (other than to foreign diplomats serving their country), the children of
          United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one
          citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements.

          The Supreme Court has already dismissed sever birther suits. You folks can argue this until 2017, when Obama steps down from his second term, just like the folks who still argue the moon landing was staged in Area 51.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_67VH2EX3JWHGESFFKNBFIYUNMA yahoo-67VH2EX3JWHGESFFKNBFIYUNMA

             Well put..I am as impressed with your preparation as I am sickened by the lack of preparation by the right wingers who tend to make things up and then spew them as fact over the internet. It’s too bad so many are ignorant enough to believe that ANY thing they read online is the gospel. I am not a democrat OR a republican but tend to check all the issues and vote for the lesser of the 2 evils. As of late, I cannot in good conscience vote for a single republican in the upcoming election due to their and their constituency stretching the truth, twisting the truth, and/or downright lying in desperation during this campaign. They need to do some serious soul searching and make major changes in their tactics before I will EVER again feel safe enough or have enough faith in them to vote republican. Indeed, I have seen that they have bought and paid for whole networks of journalism. They have brought into question the integrity of “fair and balanced” journalism. How can ANY one trust them?

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1291477807 Pete Beglar

              So your voting for Obama?We are not clear here!!I hear this CRAP a lot..You have not a leg to stand on if you dont talk about the other side of the coin.It makes your whole post senseless.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660675001 Don Moore

            Actually the SCOTUS has never dismissed a suit of this type. They have refused to here the cases but have never dismissed them.

            • BajaDemocrats

               Semantics. Birther queen Orly Taitz. was fined $20,000 for filing what a federal judge determined was a frivolous lawsuit in which she claimed Obama’s birth certificate was fake. By refusing to hear the case, the Supreme Court re-affirmed that her nut case suit was indeed frivolous. Case dismissed.

          • grkorbel

            Need I point out to you the issue is not the requirements for U.S. citizenship but that there are allegedly two fraudulent documents associated with Barack Obama: a fradulent birth certificate and a fraudulent draft card.
                  
            If–and this is a huge if–the documents are discovered to be fraudulent he will have to answer the same two questions Nixon did:
            “What did youknow?” and “When did you know it?”

            The White House is surely aware of these documents and the President knows whether or not he registered for the draft. If he didn’t but knows that a fradulent draft card was issued in his name, ostensibly with his knowledge, and he hasn’t addressed the likelihood this a forged document, he is in a world of hurt.

      • carolisme

        Duh…and that means?  Washington, Adams and Jefferson were all the sons of…Indians?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_67VH2EX3JWHGESFFKNBFIYUNMA yahoo-67VH2EX3JWHGESFFKNBFIYUNMA

       WRONG…BOTH parents have to be US citizens IF the individual was NOT born in the US. He has now produced the original document showing he was born in Hawaii. So BOTH parents DO NOT have to be US citizens. The wording has been twisted YET AGAIN by far right wing republican nut jobs..Do you work for FOX?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Sewell/1065978509 Sam Sewell

    The only thing lacking in Sheriff Joes investigation is that it did not go far enough.  See:
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2012/02/why-all-this-confusion-about-what.html

    • TruthToBeTold

      All the information was not released yet. More to come.

      From what was released PROBABLE CAUSE was established. Meaning there is enough evidence to make an arrest.

      • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

        Arpaio claimed to have “probable cause” to indict many of his critics, then judges saw through the flimsy cases presented and promptly threw out most of Arpaio’s political motivated prosecutions. That’s the point of the blog: Arpaio lacks credibility. Don’t assume that because Arpaio finds “probable cause” that means an impartial judge will agree. 

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/EEP7UEUDHHAAMHYZIYHW4FYYDQ Rita Marinoni

          He has been elected 5 times.  Apparently the majority finds him quite credible.

          • Your_Uncle_Karl

            I think he’s also been sued more times than he’s been elected.  Apparently the courts don’t find him all that credible.  The “majority” you speak of doesn’t care if he’s credible or even truthful.  They do care that he reflects their own ignorance and prejudice. 

          • mark_dowling

            His majority has shrunk from 40% lead in 2000 to 13% in the last race. Tick tock Joe.

            • TruthToBeTold

              ARE YOU A WOMEN WHO WANTS TO BE A MAN OR A MAN WHO WANTS TO BE A WOMEN OR ARE YOU JUST A SOCIALIST ANTIAMERICAN LIBERAL GAY REDCOAT?

              • BajaDemocrats

                 You can always tell a right winger – they start & finish with personal attacks, because that’s all they got.

              • tiponeill

                That’s not him, that’s me – the socialist antiamerican liberal gay redcoat.

        • TruthToBeTold

          The masses will agree to convict a proven felon and bring all those ID’d to justice. Stay tuned, MORE TO COME SHORTLY.

    • alRassooli

      Outstanding post, Sam, and great link…. I like it and we’re in total agreement :)

      The fact remains this controversy has never been satisfactorily resolved and the more Obama and his administration duck, dive and evade the more guilty they look to me. Most mainstream newspapers and tv channels only air the topic when trying to laugh it off. None has so far properly reviewed the growing mountain of evidence by asking genuine experts with appropriate experience to impartially evaluate it.

      A few minority services like “World Net Daily” & others have published detailed reports on extensive technical & forensic examinations of the so-called “Long Form Birth Certificate”. Not everyone likes WND or agrees with their views but it’s the message not the messenger that matters so we should be open-minded & carefully assess the evidence provided.

      That evidence clearly indicates the file uploaded to the White House website was computer generated & heavily hand-edited rather than simply produced by scanning an authentic paper document. Instead of providing a “real” document (as it probably doesn’t exist) the White House merely ridicule & attempt to discredit all who dare question what they’ve done.

      In my opinion the moment someone resorts to name calling and making personal attacks, rather than listening to what someone actually says and responding to factual points, they’ve lost the argument and admitted they’re in the wrong. That includes anyone gunning for Sheriff Joe and trying to discredit him or suggesting he’s “politically motivated” rather than just looking objectively at the excellent work his experienced and skill volunteers have been doing.

      Kind regards,
      IQ al Rassooli

  • Paul Smith

    Until somebody else comes along willing to do the job, I’ll support Arpaio’s work right through to the SCOTUS.

  • uprightape

    Anyone born on U.S. soil is a citizen, and eligible to be President (even John McCain, born in the Panama Canal Zone). You might as well investigate the Honolulu newspapers for those birth notices. Or how about we look into Sheriff Joe for defrauding the people of Arizona over this wild goose chase? Or WMD in Iraq?

    • TruthToBeTold

      No law states just because you are born on U.S. soil you are a U.S. citizen. You are leaving out very important wording within the 14 Amendment. Have you not read it? 

      If you were born on U.S. soil and your parents were ” subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” as written in the 14th Amendment, at the time of your birth then you are a U.S. citizen.

      Subject to the jurisdiction thereof means NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANYBODY ELSE. Illegal alien children owe allegiance to the country of their parents citizenship. Read the 14 Amendment of the United States Constitution and research it’s true meaning. 

      Furthermore Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 U.S. Constitution states a distinct difference between a ” citizen ” and a ” natural born citizen.”

      If you were only a U.S. ” citizen ” of the United States at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, you were qualified to be U.S. President. This is called the  ” GRANDFATHER CLAUSE.” 

      There were no natural born Citizens at that time of this new Nation because most were british subjects and citizens of other countries. When all the U.S. ” citizens ” at the time of the adoption of the Constitution passed on, now to become President of the United States one must be a ” NATURAL BORN CITIZEN ” WITH SOLE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FROM THE TIME OF BIRTH.

      This is the first safegard we have to stop foreign dictators children from becoming commander of the most powerful army in the world.

       Position of the U.S Presidency can only be one who was born of U.S. citizen parents on U.S. soil hence a ” natural born Citizen.”

      • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

        You are misreading both the 14th amendment and the INA, which codifies the 14th amendment birthright citizenship. 

        Moreover, your first statement is incorrect. The INA, 8 USC § 1401 states: “The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;”

        The only persons present here who not subject to U.S. jurisdiction are diplomats and their families, who have diplomatic immunity and cannot be sued, prosecuted, deported, etc. Neither of Obama’s parents or Obama were/are foreign diplomats, and so therefore Obama is subject to U.S. jurisdiction. If Obama was born here, then he’s a U.S. Citizen too.

        Birthright citizenship came to us as part of English common law before the 14th amendment, which provided for citizenship for everyone born on a nation’s soil except children born of diplomats, children born of slaves, children born of foreign invaders, and Indians not taxed. All the 14th amendment changed was to ensure children born of slaves were considered citizens as well, since the USSC had ruled earlier they were not citizens, and that the states had to consider everyone equally (equal protection clause) and could not treat former slaves differently.

        There is some question whether Obama is a “natural born citizen”, but as I understand that was not the subject of the “investigation.”

        • TruthToBeTold

          -You are adding words where they are not.

          USC18 SEC. 1401 defines only ” CITIZEN ” NOT NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. As a matter of fact NATURAL BORN CITIZEN is NOWHERE to be found within the 14th Amendment or USC SEC. 1401 WHAT-SO-EVER. Have you not read them?

          Steel Co. v. Citizens (1998) “jurisdiction is a word of many, too many, meanings.” Therefore, it is important to discover the operational meaning behind “subject to the jurisdiction” as employed under the Fourteenth Amendment rather then assuming its meaning from other usages of the word jurisdiction alone.”

          Sen. Trumbull 1866 39th Congress Congressional Globe [2893] provides the answer declaring:

          ” The provision is, that all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.’ That means ‘subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.’ What do we mean by ‘complete jurisdiction thereof?’ Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.”

          The Civil Rights Act of 1866 had already granted U.S. citizenship to all persons born in the United States, AS LONG AS THOSE PERSONS WERE NOT SUBJECT TO A FOREIGN POWER.

          Illegal alien children born on U.S. soil are not U.S citizens. Their citizenship is subject to whatever their parents foreign citizenship is.

          There is NO LAW in the United States that can strip a parents foreign citizenship from their child just because the child was born on U.S. soil.

          Would you like another country to do that to your children?

          Nice try.

          • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

            You’re confusing “jurisdiction” with “loyalty.” One need not even be a citizen to be subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Otherwise we’d never be able to arrest, sue, or deport a non-citizen.

            Those who argue the 14th amendment doesn’t apply to children born of undocumented parents claiming they’re not subject to U.S. jurisdiction because their parents are citizens of other nations. This is nonsense, if not subject to U.S. jurisdiction, then they can’t be deported or even sued.

            • TruthToBeTold

              Your opinion has been PROVEN FALSE by fact, and again your double speak and convoluted rhetoric is obvious.

              An illegal alien or foreigners visiting have some rights but they do not have all the rights U.S. citizens and Article 2 natural born Citizens have. For example they cannot vote or run for office.

              Furthermore the United States does not have the authority to take from a child it’s nature given citizenship from it’s parents just because it was born on U.S. soil.

              How would you like it if a country took away your childs citizenship just beacause it was born in a country other then your own?

              • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

                Over 100 years of court decisions confirm my point. Anyone born on U.S. soil is a U.S. Citizen unless their parents are foreign diplomats. Children born of foreign diplomats aren’t subject to U.S. jurisdiction because they have diplomatic immunity. Everyone present here is subject to U.S. laws except diplomats.

                Critics of birthright citizenship keep claiming there’s been a massive misinterpretation of the 14th amendment. However, jurisdiction and allegiance are two different things.

                A child born of non-citizen parents may very well have citizenship from his parents’ nation, but under our constitution the child is a U.S. Citizen, except children of diplomats.

      • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

        You are misreading both the 14th amendment and the INA, which codifies the 14th amendment birthright citizenship. 
        Moreover, your first statement is incorrect. The INA, 8 USC § 1401 states: “The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;”
        The only persons present here who not subject to U.S. jurisdiction are diplomats and their families, who have diplomatic immunity and cannot be sued, prosecuted, deported, etc. Neither of Obama’s parents or Obama were/are foreign diplomats, and so therefore Obama is subject to U.S. jurisdiction. If Obama was born here, then he’s a U.S. Citizen too.
        Birthright citizenship came to us as part of English common law before the 14th amendment, which provided for citizenship for everyone born on a nation’s soil except children born of diplomats, children born of slaves, children born of foreign invaders, and Indians not taxed. All the 14th amendment changed was to ensure children born of slaves were considered citizens as well, since the USSC had ruled earlier they were not citizens, and that the states had to consider everyone equally (equal protection clause) and could not treat former slaves differently.
        There is some question whether Obama is a “natural born citizen”, but as I understand that was not the subject of the “investigation.”

        • TruthToBeTold

          -You are adding words where they are not.

          USC18 SEC. 1401 defines only ” CITIZEN ” NOT NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. As a matter of fact NATURAL BORN CITIZEN is NOWHERE to be found within the 14th Amendment or USC SEC. 1401 WHAT-SO-EVER. Have you not read them?

          Steel Co. v. Citizens (1998) “jurisdiction is a word of many, too many, meanings.” Therefore, it is important to discover the operational meaning behind “subject to the jurisdiction” as employed under the Fourteenth Amendment rather then assuming its meaning from other usages of the word jurisdiction alone.”

          Sen. Trumbull 1866 39th Congress Congressional Globe [2893] provides the answer declaring:

          ” The provision is, that all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.’ That means ‘subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.’ What do we mean by ‘complete jurisdiction thereof?’ Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.”

          The Civil Rights Act of 1866 had already granted U.S. citizenship to all persons born in the United States, AS LONG AS THOSE PERSONS WERE NOT SUBJECT TO A FOREIGN POWER.

          Illegal alien children born on U.S. soil are not U.S citizens. Their citizenship is subject to whatever their parents foreign citizenship is.

          There is NO LAW in the United States that can strip a parents foreign citizenship from their child just because the child was born on U.S. soil.

          Would you like another country to do that to your children?

          Nice try.

          • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

            Again, you’re confusing allegiance with jurisdiction. One need not have allegiance to the U.S. to be subject to U.S. laws. Birthright citizenship has been part of the ‘rule of law’ even before the U.S. was a nation.

            Under English common law, all children except those born of slaves, of Indians not subject to taxes (who also could not be sued), of foreign diplomats, or of foreign invaders are citizens. All Indians now are citizens subject to U.S. jurisdiction, and so that exception is long gone.

            Children born of immigrants might also be citizens of other nations, depending upon that nation’s laws, but under U.S. law if they’re born here and subject to our jurisdiction then they are citizens. Citizenship for children born of citizens was a well documented part of the 14th amendment debate and it is clear Congress meant for children born of immigrants to be considered citizens too.
            All the 14th amendment did was to ensure that birthright citizenship also extended to former slaves, because the Southern states would likely try to treat freed slaves as 2nd class citizens, and the USSC ruled in Dred Scott that children born of slaves were not citizens per English common law.

            • TruthToBeTold

              Your foolish doublespeak has been debunked. Get over it. You are REDUNDANT.

              • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

                Over 100 years of court decisions, including the U.S. Supreme Court, have held that everyone born here, except children of foreign diplomats, are U.S. citizens. I guess judges are redundant…they keep ruling the same over and over and over…

                • Paul Smith

                  What do yu nt understand abut the fact that ‘citizen’ and ‘naturalo brn citizen’ are tw different animals?  They aren’t the same!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EEP7UEUDHHAAMHYZIYHW4FYYDQ Rita Marinoni

      A citizen does not rise to the high standard required to be President which is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.  A natural born citizen is geography and parentage rendering the child with loyalty to only the U.S.  In other words it requires TWO UNITED STATES CITIZEN PARENTS.  Obama, at best is a dual citizen even if the birth certificate was true and not eligible for the office.  By his own admission, period.  

      The announcements in the Star Bulletin and Advertiser are not proof of birth in Hawaii.  See this link and learn what a serious problem Hawaii created with birth certificates. It is really interesting and I thought what is the big deal too until I read this article.   Almost anyone could register a birth there….even if it is a foreign birth! http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/02/vital-records-indicate-obama-not-born_29.html

      Then I read that Obama issued an executive order early in his Presidency sealing Presidential records.  Sure enough, after researching his executive orders, I found out this was the first one he signed.  Why?  National security?  Come on, there is nothing more important to national security than the true identity of the person sitting in the White House.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/MMHXVHV64LMRMN7LQBCDCNNA2A Thumper

    Okay attack the messenger when the facts uncovered by the investigation seem difficult to dispute.  So, we should not take Arpaio’s investigation at face value, but we SHOULD take this “reporter’s” assessment that Arpaio abuses his power at face value.  The one achilles heel in this hit piece is that Arpaio is too busy with his duties as Sheriff to conduct this investigation.  Those doing the investigation simply report to him.  Jerome Corsi has done a thorough job of establishing that Obama’s birth cert. is a fake. So what if Mike Zullo has co-authored Corsi’s book?  The fact that Zullo is well-versed in the facts of the Obama deception make him an ideal person to do the lead in this investigation.  I guess Mr. Quasius, wants us to ignore such logic.  Oh, and by the way, Mr. Quasius, are  you a real person?  I’m sure you are, but I doubt Quasius is your real name. It sounds too much like Quasi.  You try to insult our intelligence from many angles, but you’re not fooling me with your quasi commentary.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EEP7UEUDHHAAMHYZIYHW4FYYDQ Rita Marinoni

      Agreed.  The arguments are lame and tired.  Why shouldn’t Mike Zullo write a book and make a little money after donating his time to the investigation?  The bigger story should be how many tax dollars have been wasted by Obama to conceal the truth.  If he really cared about this country and didn’t have anything to hide he would open all of his records to the public and the discussion would end.  He can’t open them because they would reveal everything he is hiding. It really is 1+1=2 not 1+1=5 as they are trying to make us believe.

  • http://www.facebook.com/68TruthSeeker Scott Adams

    Full Uncut Video Of Sheriff Joe Arpaio Press Conference On Obama’s Birth Certificate and Selective Service Registration Card – 3/1/12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JPabF7yd7kk

  • http://www.facebook.com/68TruthSeeker Scott Adams

    Full Uncut Video Of Sheriff Joe Arpaio Press Conference On Obama’s Birth Certificate and Selective Service Registration Card – 3/1/12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JPabF7yd7kk

  • http://www.facebook.com/68TruthSeeker Scott Adams

    Full Uncut Video Of Sheriff Joe Arpaio Press Conference On Obama’s Birth Certificate and Selective Service Registration Card – 3/1/12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JPabF7yd7kk

  • Ron Polland

    Bob, if you can get Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne and the state police to give me 30 minutes of their time, I’ll demonstrate, in real-time, how both birth certificates Obama released were forged – the short form in 2008 and the long-form in 2011 by recreating the forgeries, as I have done here:

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8CFAA81A4A93AFED

    http://youtu.be/aFAP6TUDgq8

    http://youtu.be/CC2Vm5fnkVI

     

    • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

      There’s some question whether Arpaio even has jurisdiction at this is a state or federal matter. Tom Horne and the State Police do however. Have you submitted a sworn complaint to them?

      • TruthToBeTold

        There is NO QUESTION. The Sheriff is the only elected law enforcement officer within in the United States. He is above the State Police. Do a little research your comments are REDUNDANT and your double speak is self evident in your  Antiamerican posts.

    • Your_Uncle_Karl

      You should get to a doctor and have your serum porcelain content measured immediately.  I think you might have crackpot syndrome.

  • uprightape

    His (Obamas’) mother’s Americaness  makes him a natural born citizen! Besides, your all going to have to live with his reelection and another 4 1/2 years of His Presidency. Might as well find something else to complain about.

    • http://www.facebook.com/duncan.bates.alabama Duncan Bates

      no it does not.  you need to do more research. both parents must be an american citizen

    • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

      Obama won’t be reelected if I have any say in the matter. He’s our worst president in modern history. Jimmy Carter is smiling…he’s no longer the worst, as Obama overtook him years ago!

    • TruthToBeTold

      Barack Hussein Obama’s/Barry Soetoro’s forged documents makes him one thing for sure, a FELON.

    • alRassooli

      No “uprightape” – sorry but you are completely mistaken! The term “Natural Born” is a technical term which has a very specific meaning; many people can either be or become American citizens in all sorts of ways, e.g. if one of their parents is American, or if they were born on American soil (but neither of their parents were American Citizens at the time) or if they just live in the USA long enough and meet a number of criteria, however in EVERY ONE of these cases they can be or become US Citizens but can NOT be “Natural Born” (something you either are from the moment of birth or can never be).

      The basic requirement for someone to be “Natural Born” and therefore potentially eligible (provided they also meet other criteria) to run for presidency or vice presidency is that BOTH of their parents must have been full American citizens at the time of their birth.

      Clearly Obama senior was a foreign student (British, as Kenya was still part of the British Empire then) and so this alone settles the matter – Obama junior (BHO) was therefore either a British Citizen (according to the laws of the day) or possibly of dual US and British nationality but either way could then never be “Natural Born”.

  • America’s Conservative News

    Mr. Quasius: 

    Exceptionally lame article sir! 

    It would appear that after admitting that the “Obama Birth Certificate” is questionable, you proceed to dismiss the claims of the Cold Case Posse based almost solely on the fact that you believe that Joe Arpaio is not a “nice guy?”

    Here’s an idea… discuss the EVIDENCE presented at the conference and throw the ad hominems and character assasinations to the curb.

    • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

      Arpaio has a history of politically motivated investigations and prosecutions of his critics, and is in deep trouible for these serious allegations of abuse of power. Arpaio does a good job of damaging his own credibility without any help.

  • kentony

    you are a moron and it seem like a lot of americans are bunkers.do you people realise that it was the last republican govt that put your country in this sorry state.you lot should grow up and think of the best way to sort your countrys problems out.am not american but i think obama and the democrats are your best chance of coming out of the mess you are in

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Garrett-Papit/100000608062623 Garrett Papit

      Really? Based on what exactly…printing money we don’t have, spending more than we print, and borrowing the difference from China? Sure…sounds, like a great plan. Doesn’t work in Monopoly, but maybe when running a nation it will. LOL

  • DNichols

    Arpaio took over six months to hand over M.C.S.O. Documents to a Federal Subpoena.

    In my Opinion: 

    It is my belief that He used this six month period to Cook M.C.S.O. Books, to Forge, and Destroy Documents , shift Funds, and to line up his Fall Guys.

    I believe Arpaio to be one of the Nations best Document Forgers?

    Does this make him an Expert?

    Arpaio should have been Indicted for the Federal findings of his Crimes.

    Justice does not mean Crime is O.K. but now we will keep a better eye on you?

    Arpaio should face Justice for his Crimes.

    He has run the M.C.S.O. as his Private Death Camp.

    This Birther Garbage is Arpaio’s Ploy to take the Heat off Himself, since he is still under Federal Investigation.

    To: True Justice for All?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/EEP7UEUDHHAAMHYZIYHW4FYYDQ Rita Marinoni

      Pure conjecture.  You talk about what you believe but offer absolutely no facts to support any of your statements rendering them without merit.

      On the other hand MCSO used forensic experts from all over the world that have yet to be revealed, but were convinced enough to put their reputation on the line that there was probably cause.

      Who are you going to believe?  

      You think you got problems with Arpaio….wait until Obama uses his full powers of the NDAA…Arpaio will look like Twinkle Toes.

    • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

      Obama’s documents should be examined by an expert, but not under Arpaio’s auspices. Arpaio has proven himself over and over to be a serial power abuser, who launches investigations and often prosecutions of his critics and political enemies.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FFXFSGS7KTKEU5ETWJJB2JP6IM ZZZZZZZZ

    Wait till Breitbart’s tape comes out.  And it will.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PLCNNIMEHVQ23O5HQ3QW5KAX3Q I_May_Byte

    Boy This Is A Laugh….I Can Certainly Tell This Is A Liberal Site OBAMA SEALS HIS RECORDS: EXECUTIVE ORDER 13489 So I Wonder Why Little Or No Information Is Available. Another Case Of Denial By The Lame Stream Media….But That Is To Be Expected…Some Things Never Change…

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  • tiponeill

    This is really great. I hope these intrepid investigators will move on to the faked Moon Landing soon.
    Anything to keep them occupied

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Garrett-Papit/100000608062623 Garrett Papit

      Tip – let’s discuss the facts. You should be able to easily make us look foolish with facts, so why just use jokes? Hmmm…maybe the facts do you a disservice? 

      • tiponeill

        I have no need to make you look foolish – you are doing a great job without my help.

        Now about that faked moon landing – have you analyzed the tapes there ?

  • Susan Wiederhold

    Bob, if you want to be taken seriously, learn grammar and punctuation. “IT’S” is abbreviation for “IT IS”. And if your editor didn’t catch it either. Shame on both of you. 

  • BajaDemocrats

    Sheriff Joe – no time to investigate sex abuse crimes, but all the time in the world to chase down birther nonsense.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Garrett-Papit/100000608062623 Garrett Papit

      Explain how it’s nonsense. It is easy to make claims, but harder to forensically examine them…as the MCSO has done with the BC allegations.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3UE6ENH4OD2H3DHJ5TRX6D3CJY John Doe

    Oh, how lame that is! Now Obama’s thugs are trying to ruin the credibility of the people involved in exposing his faked birth certificate. How obvious. Claiming “I’m not a big fan of Obama” won’t help Quasiu. He’s probably one of Obama’s lackeys. What a failure. It;s almost funny.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BB6EH4JVIWIBNFWC3MBGZVA73E Frank

    its a forged document, what else can you say, it was manufactured and released in a manner that anyone with a brain can see it, why a easily recognised forgery was released i dont know
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2L5a_KS6iw&feature=related

  • Your_Uncle_Karl

    No surprise here in the headline.  Anybody still pursuing this baloney is a crackpot conspiracy theorist who has no credibility in the real world.  Think for a minute how vast this mythical conspiracy would have to be to hide the facts of the President’s place of birth for however many years he’s been around.  Now realize what an idiot you’ve been to give this any attention.  Jeez – don’t like Obama?  There must be something you can come up with better than this.  You guys did a pretty effective job on Clinton without having to resort to crazy nonsense that makes you look stupid.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Sewell/1065978509 Sam Sewell

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/07/top-anti-birther-confirmed-to-be-ex.html

    NEW YORK – A top Democrat, apparently operating with the full approval and
    cooperation of the president, has been directing a team of up to 100 who are
    paid to publish disinformation on a wide variety of websites to discredit
    “birthers,” according to anti-Obama researchers. The radical
    supporters of the president, known as Obama robots, or “OBOTs” for
    short, have confirmed their White House-appointed ring leader is Democratic
    Party operative James A. Johnson, the former chairman of Fannie Mae

    Obama will be exposed –Don’t get caught on the wrong side of this issue.

    • tiponeill

      Rats – I haven’t received my check from Obama central :(

    • BajaDemocrats

       You may be on to something here – I also read that Hitler’s brain has been kept alive in a lab in Argentina.

    • Your_Uncle_Karl

      Oh for Zeus’ sake!  This is so typical of the right wing tendency to conspiracy theory and how this manure gets spread.  One nut case makes a wild contention on some site without any editorial oversight, a million other nut cases accept it as verified fact and pass it on to another million or so gullible idiots.

  • mark_dowling

    How do you find an expert who the birthers and everyone else will accept? Also there is a possible States rights issue since registration of birth is a matter for Hawaii and their government stands by the registration. Could another State such as Arizona compel Hawaii to cooperate?

  • Rick

    If you saw the evidence it speaks for itself.  It is the same document on the White House web site.  You could repeat the experiments yourself, with OCR and Adobe Illustrator software.  You criticize the messenger, not the message, a logical fallacy.  Look at the document yourself. 

  • http://twitter.com/TheObamaFile The Obama File

    This articlelLacks credibility — and reeks of a strong personal bias.

  • cwgmpls

    Rather than ask all of us to spend more tax money for yet *another* investigation — how many dozens of investigations of Obama’s birth certificate have already been done? —  why don’t the people who have already investigated it just give us their results without requiring us to buy the results in a $10 book?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4Y42TR7QMRV53GCPDVJ6URN6SE inkling43

    If Arpaio is such a bad sheriff, why do the people of Maricopa County keep re-electing him? He specifically stated he did not need this new contreversy and hoped the posse would find the documents were authentic. But I commend him for no pre-judging the issue as almost everyone else has.

    • Your_Uncle_Karl

      Because the people who elect him are not all that sharp, but they are prone to CBD (conservative brain disorder). 

  • Winston Court

    Well, I am certain everyone can agree, a senate/house investigation will be much more thorough, has access to many more technical resources and experts, and will accepted much more widely … we simply need to wait for them to determine the legality/validity of the .PDF which obama has posted on the website, and claim is his legal and valid birth certificate … so, let’s proceed!   That is the way our criminal justice system works, evidence is found by a sheriff/police, of a crime, suspects are found, investigations carried on, and any crimes are prosecuted … let the wheels of justice turn!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-Killgo/1637085325 Steve Killgo

    Contrary to the Communists on the left, Obama is not the King! The Attorney General does not work for any President, he is employed by We The People. We The People still run this country, although there are those that would like to take our power away.  We also still have a Senate and a Congress along with a Supreme Court.  But We The People are over them all. That’s the way our founding fathers created this once fine brave Capitalistic Country We call America, home of the Free. No where does it say enslaved by the King and his Court of Jesters.

    • BajaDemocrats

       I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the last Communist died in his dacha in Kiev in 1998.

    • WillardGibbs

      I am guessing you are a pro-Obama plant who posts these ridiculous comments to make birthers look like idiots. If so, mission accomplished!

  • grkorbel

    Remarkable. The issue is the evidence, not the past histories of the investigators.

    Eventually a blind pig will stumble on to some corn. Even if the investigative team lacks credibility, that is of no consequence if, as they suggested, they have sworn affidavits substantiating their claims from experts who do have credibility.

    ALL investigations are motivated by one thing or another and many investigators have very jaundiced backgrounds.

    The issue is the veracity of the evidence.
    Nothing more.

    Why do I think this article would have not been written had the evidence corroborated Obama’s birth as proved by the evidence?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Miner/100000240033329 David Miner

    Nice try Bob but next time try disputing the evidence rather than applying an ad-hominem, “to attack the man”. Logic requires you argue against 2200 hours of investigation by volunteer law enforcement personnel from both sides of the political fence that came up with the same conclusion by launching another investigation countering the findings of the one you are disputing. 

    Just simply arguing that it must be wrong because you don’t like the Sheriff or you disagree with things he has done is irrelevant and worse, it is a tactic of the left.

    • http://twitter.com/CafeConLecheGOP Cafe con Leche GOP

      Arpaio’s politics of personal destruction towards his critics, is a tactic of the left. Malicious prosecution of political enemies with baseless charges is also a tactic of the left. We shouldn’t be surprised. After all, the man was a life-long Democrat and even ran for Phoenix City Council, losing badly, until he discovered he might get elected if he ran as a Republican. We need REAL Republicans, NOT RINOs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1334506745 Mark Schwendau

    Bob, unless you have been living under a rock, and are therefore not much of a journalist, I knew that LF BC was a fraud the moment I saw it.  The reason?  Simple.  Back when BHO was born we were still using the term of NEGRO and not African or African-American or Black or anything else.  All other terms started after the Black Panther/Black Pride movement of about 1968.  Since you screwed up this op ed piece, perhaps you would like to take on his SSN and why eVerify blows it out?

  • Mark_W

    Well, i was going read this, yet another Arpaio news report, to see if it had anything objective to say about the actual findings of the investigative team… I got as far as ” I see the issues with Obama’s documents too, assuming the evidence presented itself has not been faked”… and realized there was no point in reading any further. i don’t believe I have read a more puerile statement about anything, anywhere. Who would be stupid enough to even think of a line like that, let alone write it down.