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Public support for SB 1070 drops

by on May. 09, 2010, under border issues, politics, SB 1070

In a Rocky Mountain Poll recently conducted, Arizona public support in Arizona for SB 1070 may not be as strong as first indications suggested.

According to the poll conducted by the Behavior Research Center (BRC) in Phoenix, support for SB 1070 stands at 52 percent in favor to 39 percent opposed and 9 percent unsure.

Among registered voters, 56 percent favor while 34 percent oppose the immigration law recently passed by the Republican majority in the legislature and signed into law by Governor Jan Brewer.

According to the BRC the data also indicates that support for SB 1070 may be shrinking modestly in the wake of negative reactions from business and economic development leaders expressing concerns about its potential impact on Arizona’s tourism and convention industries.

Support may also be shrinking due to concerns about efforts to attract new industry and jobs to Arizona – concerns similar to those expressed after former Governor Evan Mecham rescinded the MLK holiday which was later approved by voters, according to the BRC.

Initial polls suggested support for SB 1070 ran is high as 70% in Arizona.

Also influencing the shift may be intense negative political commentary at the national and
international level, characterizing Arizona as a “racist” state.

Public protests by Latinos and others may also be influencing people to have second thoughts about the wisdom of the new law.

These recent Rocky Mountain Poll results compare to an automated interviewing “robotic-call” poll released in mid-April among 500 “ likely voters” which reported that 70 percent favored the measure and only 23 percent were in opposition. The difference in results may trace to differences in polling methods, according to BRC officials.

Jim Haynes, President of the BRC explained that “ It should be remembered that the goal of polling is to faithfully report the opinions from a representative cross-section of the target universe. This requires strict random samples of the population and call backs to people who may not be at home when first dialed. Call back methods assure that all individuals in the original sample have an opportunity to express their views.”

“Differences may also trace to the fact that all calls were made on a single mid-week day which can eliminate voters who are at work, in school, driving, shopping, in after school activities, traveling or otherwise not available when the robot makes its single dial to their phone,” Haynes added.

“ As a result, surveys on single mid week days tend to under-sample the views of working age voters, while samples of “likely voters” historically tend to over sample the views of older and more affluent voters and homemakers,” Haynes said.

Not surprisingly, “reaction to the new immigration law appears to have galvanized Republicans in support of the measure,(76%) but may also be unifying Democrats (59%) into opposition. On the other hand, registered Independent are more similar in their views to Republicans than to Democrats in that they support it by a two to one ratio,” said Earl de Berge, founder of BRC and its Research Director.

DeBerge added “the law has exposed strong ethnic divisions in the state with 65 percent of Caucasians supporting it while opposition among Latinos is at 69 percent and among other ethnic minorities is 63 percent.”

“The most support for the new immigration law comes from older people (55+ years). Within this age set, 63 percent favor and 31 percent oppose.” added deBerge.

The question asked during the poll was :

“Next, a new Arizona law may soon go into effect regarding one’s U.S. citizenship status and right to be in the U.S.. The new law would require police officers in Arizona to question anyone about their immigration status if an officer suspects the person may be in the country illegally, including anyone who looks or sounds foreign. Those found to be here illegally could be jailed up to six months and fined $2,500. Do you favor or oppose the governor signing such a law if it is sent to her by the legislature?”


75 Comments for this entry

  • JAMES DUTT

    We had better do something significant. Our infrastructure is already severly broken because of to many people coming into our country to quickly. Been here illegally less than 10 years, GET OUT.

    • leftfield

      The future of a movement is conditioned by the fanaticism, yes, the intolerance, with which its adherents uphold it as the sole correct movement, and push it past other formations of a similar sort.
      -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

      • michael lockwood

        leftfield
        Your qoute is referring to groups  like the “no borders”, La Raza, and other groups of their ilk right?

        • leftfield

          I think you know very well to whom I am directing this quote.  It is given in hopes that someone will understand where the nativists might lead us if they are not opposed.

          • michael lockwood

            Yea Right
            To open borders and every illegal that wants to come over a free pass. I guess in your mind anyone that opposes amnesty and open borders is a racist though. You would rather live in a world of Marxism and left liberal progressive communism than you would in a  free one. Wait; maybe not, then you wouldn’t have the right to voice your opinion, would you?!!! 

            • leftfield

              No such thing as “left liberal progressive communism”, comrade.  Liberals still hold onto the delusion that this system can be made humane.  Communists know better than that.   

              I said nothing about racism, nor did I make accusations of such in my comment.  I was comparing the intolerance of Hitler to the intolerance of the right wing.

            • ruth

              MY MESSAGE WAS FOR MICHAEL LOCKWOOD

      • Right (as in, "correct")-field

        Interesting how you’re quoting Hitler as if his views were held in high regard anywhere in the modern world.
        But even so,  how exactly do you know that this pathetic quote wouldn’t be referring to the fervor and fanatacism behind the movement to essentially grant amnesty to millions of lawbreaking illegals who are leeching off of the U.S. taxpayer’s dime during an economic crisis regardless of the consequences, so that you and your acid-tripping, wannabe activist buddies can get a warm and fuzzy?  All the while, you would leave the TRUE, tax paying citizens of this country to deal with the filth.
        “The law is the law.” — How’s that for a quote?

  • dogs99red

    I think the law should be put into  effect right away. and by the way they have to have some other reason to stop them other than thinking they are illegal.

  • Francine Shacter

    As a retired statistician, I greatly appreciate the detailed explanation of the methodology used to collect the data!!!!!! It gives me confidence in the quality of the data collected and consequently, confidence of the accuracy the data describe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • michael lockwood

    Jim Haynes, President of the BRC explained that “ It should be remembered that the goal of polling is to faithfully report the opinions from a representative cross-section of the target universe”.

    My question is did both polling companies pose the same question to voters? If they did then they need to go back and rewrite their question because no where in SB1070  does it require or give the right to any police officer to question everyone about their legal status.
    The question  where it states “The new law would require police officers in Arizona to question anyone about their immigration status” is bogus” .
    The polling company needs to write a correct question based on the law. Better yet the polling company should ask a few questions instead of one They should ask if :  illegals should be allowed to come over whenever they want ? Do you support amnesty for illegals? Do you think we should completely secure our border with Mexico? 
    The last question should state: A new Arizona law that may soon go into effect regarding illegal aliens. The new law would require police officers to question anyone about their immigration status if the officer has already come in contact with that person during a stop, detention or arrest. Those found to be here illegally could be jailed up to six months and fined $2500 and will be turned over to federal officers for deportation proceedings. Do you favor or oppose this measure?”
    Anybody can make a poll do what they want with the wording of the question. Tell the polling companies to ask the real question.

    • Rob

      Sad to see so much ignorance.
      First off, the WRITTEN law, as always is left open to interpretation.
      Living in downtown Tucson I see this first hand with the illegals. Anybody caught doing a crime is already questioned if they are illegal, that happens regardless of this law. However Sheriff Joe Appriao (sp?) continues to reassure us, that they will only ask immigrant status after being stopped for traffic violations and or other encounters. But what would be the purpose of this law then, if they have been doing it?  Obviously the voice of support says to help reduce illegals, so then we could very easily infer that they are going to be stopping people based on cloths, looks, and if they are foreign.
      Quite clearly, the law (as wiki reads) says an officer can apprehend people CLEARLY on the basis of  suspecting they are illegal. Wether as it says “by cloths, and looks of long lengths of travel” or by day labors being hired outside of Home Depot parking lots.  Regardless, what the law says, and what we are told will happen on TV, AGAIN, or two totally different things being left WIDE open to interpretation.
      Second, if Arizona is handing out healthcare, and food stamp benefits to illegals (which I am positive it is, but unsure how?) that describes a very serious problem with how we have our system set up. Personally, I see that as a problem with Arizona, and the incompetence of the state governmental system.
      Third, it has be proven that nation wide, minorities are very much more likely to be pulled over then Caucasians. Which with this new law I can’t help but think of how many more times law enforcement will now look for anything to pull over mexicans just to simply question the immigrant status, and then of course provide them with an improper turn ticket, or some very absurd ticket which in the end works out for the state as well. Providing more tickets to support the state.
      Funny, when you live here, you know that the illegals are very quiet, they keep to them selves, and are very respectable people trying to maintain a low profile. They are not all drug crazed criminals committing all of Arizona’s crime
      Last point I want to make, every voice of support for this law, I have one question I need you to ask yourself.
      If all the ‘illegal MEXICANS’ magically had the extra $1500 dollars and all of them became LEGAL citizens, how would you feel about them? Would they still steal your jobs you don’t do anyway?
      Becoming a citizen and applying for the green card, and medical tests, not to mention the hours of written exams they take to determine if they know enough US history, and are also deemed a good moral person, is very degrading when I know half natural born citizens are too stupid to even read this damn law for themselves. Go watch your fox news television, Oro Valley…….

      • Rob

        Oops , first one is not type setted, this one is easier to read
         
        Sad to see so much ignorance.
         
        First off, the WRITTEN law, as always is left open to interpretation.
         
        Living in downtown Tucson I see this first hand with the illegals. Anybody caught doing a crime is already questioned if they are illegal, that happens regardless of this law. However Sheriff Joe Appriao (sp?) continues to reassure us, that they will only ask immigrant status after being stopped for traffic violations and or other encounters. But what would be the purpose of this law then, if they have been doing it?  Obviously the voice of support says to help reduce illegals, so then we could very easily infer that they are going to be stopping people based on cloths, looks, and if they are foreign.
         
         
        Quite clearly, the law (as wiki reads) says an officer can apprehend people CLEARLY on the basis of  suspecting they are illegal. Wether as it says “by cloths, and looks of long lengths of travel” or by day labors being hired outside of Home Depot parking lots.  Regardless, what the law says, and what we are told will happen on TV, AGAIN, or two totally different things being left WIDE open to interpretation.
         
         
        Second, if Arizona is handing out healthcare, and food stamp benefits to illegals (which I am positive it is, but unsure how?) that describes a very serious problem with how we have our system set up. Personally, I see that as a problem with Arizona, and the incompetence of the state governmental system.
         
         
        Third, it has be proven that nation wide, minorities are very much more likely to be pulled over then Caucasians. Which with this new law I can’t help but think of how many more times law enforcement will now look for anything to pull over mexicans just to simply question the immigrant status, and then of course provide them with an improper turn ticket, or some very absurd ticket which in the end works out for the state as well. Providing more tickets to support the state.
         
         
        Funny, when you live here, you know that the illegals are very quiet, they keep to them selves, and are very respectable people trying to maintain a low profile. They are not all drug crazed criminals committing all of Arizona’s crime
         
         
        Last point I want to make, every voice of support for this law, I have one question I need you to ask yourself.
         
         
        If all the ‘illegal MEXICANS’ magically had the extra $1500 dollars and all of them became LEGAL citizens, how would you feel about them? Would they still steal your jobs you don’t do anyway?
         
         
        Becoming a citizen and applying for the green card, and medical tests, not to mention the hours of written exams they take to determine if they know enough US history, and are also deemed a good moral person, is very degrading when I know half natural born citizens are too stupid to even read this damn law for themselves. Go watch your fox news television, Oro Valley…….

  • spot on

    Get real and fix the boarder situation now.   AZ 1070 is a wake up call.   The problems associated with illegal immigration are real and growing.   Intollerence will evolve if the feds do nothing.   Stop the flood of illegals, work out reasonable amnesty for folks already working in our society, and lets move on with life.     

  • egreen

    you forgot to mention in your poll that, the police can only stop someone that has initiated a traffic offense/stop, or if a crime has been committed. the problem is you the media, latinos and liberal democrats  are  distorting the way the law works. the police wont be like nazis rounding people up. “anybody that looks or sounds foreign”, certainly sums it up. anybody, not just mexicans. its not a racist law. its a just law. any other county would not tolerate illegals draining their country , education system, and health care. they deport illegals. not support them. why shouldnt we?

    • leftfield

       …the police wont be like nazis rounding people up…

      And we’re supposed to take your word for this?  If this is so, I guess we can just throw this law out and forget about it. 

      • Susan White

        Then I guess you and your had better back down then Left. Are you a communist? There are just so many freaks in Tucson. It is like a little town that doesn’t know how to grow up.

        We the People will no longer tolerate the Mexico Agenda on American Soil. We are for a controlled number of legal immigrants. We will not allow illegal immigrants in America. We decide. Americans agree with the new law.

        You will not decide.

  • JoeS

    If the feds would actually do their job there would be no need for SB1070….

    If the State steps in the open borders crowd says it is the feds job,  if the feds actually do something like when they were building a tiny stretch of fence or raiding a workplace…well then the open borders crowd cries about that as well.

    But what do you expect,  they are the “open borders crowd”..

    Pretty simple

    • Pesqueira

      I do respect your opinion but ”open borders crowd” is a label.  No one is advocating open borders.  I am against someone being able to violate my Constitutional Rights by asking  me to produce my citizenship papers.  As a reasonable person I hope you understand this.  With your experience can you  guarantee that all law enforcement officers will not abuse this authority.? If not….. 

      Please excuse some of my crass replies below.  They in no way represent my feelings toward reasonable people with resonable fears.  Don’t tread on my Constitutional Rights or my childrens future rights. 

      • Andyg

        Pesqueira
        You say,  ” I am against someone being able to violate my Constitutional Rights by asking  me to produce my citizenship papers.”    But don’t you do that already? Try telling the Gov. No when they ask you to show your Birth certificate, SS card or when a cop stops you in your car and asks for your  drivers license Tell him no you don’t have to.  Don’t you have to be a citizen to have a drivers license At least in most states but that is how it is suppost to be. This is what big brother wants us to do argue with each other about this little stuff. Meanwhile they are chipping away our Constitutional rights one at a time. Take some time and read Fahrenheir 451 or 1984. This is aready happening. Look at all the cameras going up all over, the bills that are on the table to atack free speach by shutting down talk radio or anyone that questions the Government. We are all playing into there hands. I think we all want to save our Constitution but we need to stop fighting with each other over laws that are already on the books at a fed. level 1070 is just making the Fed. Gov. Wake up and do something. Lets start watching the other hand and vote people into office that will make a differance instead of milking us all dry while they live it up. I balance my check book does the Government? Lets fight together to get our rights back for our kids. We are fighting the wrong fight with 1070, Prop. 100 and so on.

      • JoeS

        Pesqueria,

        I too am NO fan of internal checkpoints ,  BUT if the feds would provide REAL border security at the actual border coupled with REAL workplace enforcement that includes REAL penalties for both employeer AND employee we would have little to no need for things like SB1070 .

        What we have now is security theater…playing daily at a border near you.

      • Susan White

        The few who may abuse the law will be prosecuted. The majority of police, if not all will followt the law. This isn’t Mexico. Yes we have corruption, but no where near the levels of Latin America….unless we continue to import the worst of it. I have lived in South America. A charming place, but I would not want their laws  nor their lives.

  • tiponeill

    In related polling of typical Arizona voters, 43% supported equal rights for gays, 56% opposed (Pima county being the only county supporting equal rights)

    • Doughnut

      I find it weird that Pima county would be for equal rights for gays.  John Garrido and Raul Grijalva hate gays and the democratic base that is Pima County vote as they are told by Garrido and Grijalva.

      • tiponeill

        John Garrido and Raul Grijalva hate gays
        A complete outright lie – Rep Grijalva is perhaps the most supportive Congressman in Congress.
        And there is nothing “weird” about it, because you have it backwards – the Dems don’t follow their Congressman’s “orders”, they elect Representatives who represent their values.
        The same way that the rednecks elect bigots like Pearce and Kyl that reflect their values.

        • Doughnut

          OK, I’m going to introduce something to youyou know nothing about, its called facts.  Fact, Garrido claims 98% of Hispanics  hate gays.  Raul Grijalva is Hispanic and he hates gays.  Garrido speaks for all Latinos in Arizona.

          http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2008/06/hispanic_news_jon_garrido_disses_gays.php

          PS I would also say 98% of Hispanics hate Blacks.
           

          • tiponeill

            OK, I’m going to introduce something to youyou know nothing about, its called facts
            Actually lies.
            Fact, Garrido claims 98% of Hispanics  hate gays
            I have no idea who “Garrido” is, nor is it relevant to anything.
            Raul Grijalva is Hispanic and he hates gays.
            I know Rep. Grijalva personally, who is happy to appear and sponsor gay events and has a 100% rating from the GLBT Human Rights campaign and ACLU.

          • Pesqueira

            I can only think of one reason why you advertise yourself as “doughnut” and it has to do with a hole

    • james

      dude you got the wrong colors on that f ag on your icon, what are you crying about? let me quir the air hear.  this is a debate about illegals entering our country raping, murdering innocent people, not some fudge packers, maybe you could migrate to holland where you can tie the knot.

      • leftfield

        this is a debate about illegals entering our country raping, murdering innocent people, not some fudge packers, maybe you could migrate to holland where you can tie the knot.

        My, such language; and on Mother’s Day, no less. 

        Speaking of mothers, mine often reminded me: “Little Lefty, you can always tell a redneck, but you can’t tell ‘em much”.

        • james

          are you trying to racially profile my by my comments? yeah sorry i was a little rought on they guy who desecrated the american flag with the rainbow. People die everyday upholding the american flag and what it stands for- freedom, so we can sit here and type what ever we want. you left wing nut bags are such hypocrites.

          • tiponeill

            yeah sorry i was a little rought on they guy who desecrated the american flag with the rainbow.
            No need to apologies - I prefer that the bigots are honest and reveal their true colors, rather than the liars who sell hate and persecute people all the while pretending that they are just upholding laws and there is no hatred involved.

  • AzWebFoot

    Consider: “Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d) of this section.” (United States Code: Title 8, Chapter 12, Sub Chapter II, Part VII, SS 1304).”

    How is what we are doing any different?

    Answer:  We’re not.

  • tiponeill

    this is a debate about illegals entering our country raping, murdering innocent people, not some fudge packers
    Actually it is a debate on whether or not Arizona has replaced Alabama as the most redneck bigoted State in the Union – and the verdict is in.

    • james

      what is wrong with asking people to provide proof that they are here not here illegaly? As we know we cannot just walk up to someone and demand to see “papers” , they have to break the law first. Everyone no matter where you are has to show a drivers license or some proof  of  I.D. The racial profiling is nonsense talking point for the people who are against it. Arizona is bankrupt and with 22 million illegals here just using and abusing the system what other choice do we have to stop this? or are you for just tearing what wall is left there down and let it become a free for all? I understand gays have problems with civil rights. But are you against this? what specifically is wrong with it?

      • tiponeill

        what specifically is wrong with it?
        I have been very clear about what is wrong with it – it is creating a second class population (“illegals” and scapegoating them.
        Arizona is not bankrupt because of “illegals” – that is scapegoating – and the only ones claiming it is NOT profiling are the redneck supporters of the law.
        The rest of the country knows – and it is not going to help Arizona’s economic situation.

  • loren Rice

    For 22 yrs. I have watched 17 to 25 % of the voters in Arizona tell the other approximately 80% what is going to happen to them or how their money is going to be spent. This is at the City, County & State level especially Pima, County. Because the majority or 80% cry and moan what is happening to them but won’t get of their lazy butts and vote. We will see what happens this time. Probably a lot more Aligator Mouths & Cotton Tail a”"s’s.

  • Ferraribubba

    Hey Hugh: I don’t know nothin’ about no Rocky Mountian Pole, but here in Baja Arkansas, where it’s voted Blue Dog Democrat since time began, our local barber, W. C., took a pole, and it came up that 94% of his customers were in favor of our fair state adopting an immigration law similiar to Arizona’s should the need arise. We want to keep it that way. Get it?
    So far, we don’t need any security bars on our doors and windows, no home invasions, ranchers murdered, car-jackings, gang wars, state budget hemorrhaging red, and when der Frau and I go out on Friday night to a fish-fry, we don’t have to step over the dead bodies of shooting victims in the parking lots to enter the restaurant, which is not an uncommon occurrance in the Old Pueblo.
    Maybe if Tucson would have stayed the city that I moved to back in 1985, instead of becoming just another Cuidad Juarez del Norte, I’d still be living up in Bear Canyon, listening to the coyotes howl at night.
    Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba

    • leftfield

      …when der Frau and I go out on Friday night to a fish-fry…

      All you can eat catfish and hushpuppies at the VFW?

    • Pesqueira

      “Hey Hugh: I don’t know nothin’ about no Rocky Mountian Pole, but here in Baja Arkansas, where it’s voted Blue Dog Democrat since time began, our local barber, W. C., took a pole”

      No offense tiponeill but it appears that everyone in Arkansas “takes a pole.”
      Maybe james (mouth wipe)  and fairy bubba (small nuts) should get together.

  • blanca

    As a statistician, I agree that the methodology used to collect the data is the correct method.
    BUT the way the question is written, either by intention or out of ignorance, skews the result. Put the word “reasonably” in front of “suspects” (as the bill says), and remove the phrase ” including anyone who looks or sounds foreign” (which is definitely not in the bill and puts an emotional content in the question), and I guarantee that you will get quite different results, ones that show stronger support for the bill. Phrase like this are are textbook example of how NOT to form a question if you want responses unbiased  results.
    Replace that phrase with ” because they are breaking the law and costing the taxpayers a lot of money”, and watch the support for the bill get even higher. This “poll” was done either by someone with an agenda or incompetent in design of statistical experiments.

  • Ken

    Almost every story  I read on different news websites say there is not a lot of support for 1070 but the comments are almost exclusively in support of the bill and that the Fed hasn’t done anything. It  seems like the news media is trying to convince us there is no problem. We need to show support for  the govenor, the bill may not be perfect but Jan Brewer took a stand when no one else would.

    • TopSarge

      Not to worry Ken,
       
      Yahoo! has already demonstrated it is willing, ready, and capable of cutting and pasting negative comments onto newer message boards. You really can’t trust anyone anymore. I can’t wait for the lies and misinformation when medical marijuana hits the ballot again. Do you know this will offer an OPTIONAL tax? Don’t need it, don’t get taxed; need and use it, you pay tax. Could conceivably alleviate some of the tax burden on regular folks – now that Symington is not around to defy the (previous) will of the people, and hoping the 9th Circus Court of Appeals keeps its ass out of our business, we may enter the 20th* century.

  • TopSarge

    When asked in a recent poll, “Would you rather have a hemorrhoidectomy while under deep, complete anesthesia, or, participate in a biased poll of 1070 support ….” the majority of respondents stated…. And there is how you skew any alleged “poll” or survey by any station or mews company in Tuscon or Phoenix. If you want news, don’t pay attention to the Star, the rag from Phonyix, KGUN, ad nauseum. Only Channel 11 gets it close to unbiased most of the time. America, you are being bought and sold by the degenerate group of ingrates YOU voted in… I don’t want to hear your bichin when you become a conservative – that will happen as soon as you too become a statistic to these illegal operatives.

  • TopSarge

    Thank you Blanca,
     
    Didn’t know the terminology (sweated through psychological and research statistics!) but just knew the technique. Spot on! The liberals will never ask a straightforward question because it will get answers they do not want.

  • leftfield

    This is all very interesting, but what does it mean?  The law has been passed and signed.  But it will not likely survive the court challenges to come, the boycott pressure and the public demonstrations.  You will not get to vote on whether the law passes constitutional muster because the interpretation of the constitution is not a matter of public support or lack thereof. 

    It may well be that 60, 70 or 80% of the people of AZ support the idea of SB 1070, but I was at the May Day demonstration against this law and the most the supporters of SB 1070 could muster was about 30 people compared to about 7,000 marching against it.  So, it seems to me the support for the bill is perhaps broad, but not very deep. 

    • TopSarge

      You know Dripalva, you were at the Mayday riots (the ones CNN & MCNBS didn’t air) – GOD! Is there no end to your feats?

    • desert_war_dawg

      “7,000 marching against it”

      the hard working legal residents have responsibilities.

      unlike the high schoolers, illegals and unemployed which make up most of the protesters that show up screaming and chanting racism.

      you may be right about the court challenges. the real challenge is going to come from the activity within about 80 miles north of the border. a storm is brewing. 

      • leftfield

        I’m a fully employed citizen and I was there.  Your assessment of who was there is incorrect based on my observations.  Myself, I think the  beer drinking slobs in favor of the law are just too lazy to go any further than their computers to support SB 1070.

  • Lee

    As I read the comments that have been left by others, the grammar, punctuation and spelling certainly does reflect the lack of  committment to education and the ability to process complex issues.  Before all of you start making comments on such a significant issue, I would suggest that you all go back to school and learn the English language.  Quite frankly, your writing is disgraceful and a slap in the face to those that attempt to communicate in a professional and respectful manner.

  • allan

    Let us merely adopt Mexico’s immigration laws for our own.  What possible objection could the illegals have to that?  Have them face the exact same laws that govern immigration in their native country.

    • leftfield

      You might prefer North Korea’s approach to undocumented people crossing their border.  One minute you guys have nothing good to say about Mexico and the next minute you want to be like them.  Make up your mind.

  • myomy

    Leftfield the reason their were only 30 supporters was because the rest of the supporters were working their hind ends off to make a living. The 7000 that were there were on welfare, not working and living with Mom & Pop or skinnied across the border and had no ( LEGAL ) reason for being there. 

    • leftfield

      Well, then I feel for them working on a Saturday afternoon and on one of the most important holidays of the year.  I hope they got overtime.  I hope the cops assigned to protect them (who outnumbered them at leawt two-to-one) got overtime too.

      • myomy

        Guess you never lived in the real world that has Hospitals etc, etc that run 24/7 365

      • desert_war_dawg

        “important holidays of the year”

        you are right, the celebration of slop jars is important and should be a national holiday.

  • arizona jim

    This bill has not one thing to do with racism.If you are an alien in the USA then you should have to show your paperwork just like anywhere else in the world.If you are here illegaly you should be imprisoned and then deported,end of story. All of you bleeding heart Liberals,please move to Mexico ,you can do more good there for your cause.Maybe the Mexicans will not ask for your paperwork and then maybe they will,good luck and goodbye

  • westiewest

    I hope Arizona stays strong on this.  Someone had to take the lead, and who better than Arizona.  The Federal Gov. failed in its duty to handle immigration years ago, many years ago.  While we are a country of freedom, and we are a large country, there should have been limits placed years ago.  If other countries can do it, America can, too.  Instead of being a country of strong individuals, good work ethics, good families, etc., we are fast becoming a country of criminals and lazy good-for-nothings who could care less about America.  Stay strong Arizona.

    • Yuma Az.

      “Instead of being a country of strong individuals, good work ethics, good families, etc., we are fast becoming a country of criminals and lazy good-for-nothings who could care less about America.”

      I read this whole page and when i read you comment I laughed! The reason why is because I’m assuming you just called an illegal alien a “lazy-good-for nothing,” you see I live in Yuma Az. and our crops depend on these “lazy-good-for-nothings.” Because of these people we make money! And please don’t say, “They are taking our jobs!” because that is pathetic! Anyone can apply at Dole, Tanimura and Antle, etc but I can sure tell you no Caucasian, American-Mexican or African-American would apply and do you know why? Because we are the lazy ones; I can honestly tell you that I would never ever work my ass off in the hot heat for a minimum wage, would you?
      Now next time you would want to give out your opinion: think twice, look around, face the facts and realize that this “lazy-good-for-nothings” actually are human and hard working people. If our state is full of violence it’s because the law enforcement officials aren’t doing their job, and if our state is full of illegal aliens it’s because our border patrollers are not doing their either.

      - S.D
       

    • Rob

      “” we are fast becoming a country of criminals and lazy good-for-nothings who could care less about America.”"
      and thats clearly because of the mexicans, right? This law will fix that. Maybe it will also fix the obesity problem too. Since I know most of the Lazy people are super fat.
      Funny, because riding my bike around the town, I only see the mexicans working out in the sun.

  • Al

    The US Government has many requirements for their agents to have success in dealing with illegal immigration Do you qualify?
    Applicants must meet the following requirements:

    * Under age 40 (certain exceptions apply)
    * U.S. citizen and resident of the U.S.
    * Able to learn Spanish or already speak it fluently
    * Clean background
    * Meet medical requirements
    * Physically fit
    Law enforcement in Arizona lack Spanish skills, are they willing to learn Spanish since they want to take over the border patrol functions  in Arizona? My question is maybe we should give the Border Patrol police certifications so they can do the criminal prevention that will be neglected in Arizona.

  • ern1

    The sooner this law takes effect the better this state is out of control with illegal immigrants plus i need my job back.The person who took my job is illegal and my x boss is taking advantage of it not fair for all involved.

    • JoeS

      “ i need my job back.The person who took my job is illegal ”

      Sorry to hear that,  I guess this is not a victimless crime after all…

  • Victor

    So who is it that is going to pay of all these people to be in prison? Isn’t it cheaper to just pay for schools, get everybody on the educational level so they can be useful members of society and so that we have fewer criminals? I’m pretty sure it is. And it would benefit the economy, without hurting the Latino public’s trust in government and law enforcement, so we can have healthier, safer communities like the police have been trying to do before the state government got involved? For that matter, why don’t we better fund law enforcement so that they can take care of all the crime that is already in Arizona that they can’t get to? Crime that is committed by citizens? No that would all be too silly!
    Instead let’s keep blaming it on the illegals and spending money like crazy while cutting every service the state provides (including those crucial to tourism). And paying for all the trouble this extra mandate will cause!

  • JoeS

    Victor,

    I am not worried about folks that don’t trust our law enforcement when it comes to reporting crimes.

    If you are hesitant to report a crime it is becuase you are likely here illegally.

    If you were not here illegally you would not be here to be a “victim” of the crime.

    Simple…

  • Al

    What will it cost tax payers in Arizona
    Lets say that the law comes into effect and you incarcerate one fifth of the undocumented 500,000 Cat and Mouse immigration workers.
    If you incarcerate just 100,000 in one year you would have to build 50 new state prisons with a 2000 max capacity which is a huge operation. At a price tag of 35,000 an inmate you would have to pay 35 billion dollars a year, remember this is a state crime and the feds would be out of the picture. You already have a million dollar deficit. No tell me where is Arizona going to come up with 35 billion dollars? The law states that an inmate can be incarcerated up to six months to prevent him or her from coming right back. Smart State Government

  • vickypettir

    The new law DOES NOT stipulate ANY of this. “Next, a new Arizona law may soon go into effect regarding one’s U.S. citizenship status and right to be in the U.S.. The new law would require police officers in Arizona to question anyone about their immigration status if an officer suspects the person may be in the country illegally, including anyone who looks or sounds foreign. Those found to be here illegally could be jailed up to six months and fined $2,500

  • Stacey

    I support the new law.  Unlawful actions do have consequence such as families being seperated when deported.   It’s time to support the side you think is correct.

  • Rob

    “If you are hesitant to report a crime it is becuase you are likely here illegally.”

     
     
    No, Joe.
     
    Unless somebodies life, or well being is at stake, I do not report ‘crime’.
    I mind my own business actually, esp if it doesn’t EFFECT ME, or my family and friends.
     
    Go figure, he without sin, cast the first stone. Im not even religious.

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