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Pac-10 expansion into Texas could rekindle old rivalry

by on Jun. 10, 2010, under Sports

Arizona State aside, Arizona has engaged in some pretty intense rivalries over the years.

Before the Cats and UCLA became fierce basketball rivals, another rivalry stoked the fire for Arizona fans.

Playing Texas Tech in football meant something in the 1970s, but now the attraction will undoubtedly be Texas and Oklahoma potentially coming to Tucson. (Photo by US Presswire/Brett Davis)

Playing Texas Tech in football meant something in the 1970s, but now the attraction will undoubtedly be Texas and Oklahoma potentially coming to Tucson. (Photo by US Presswire/Brett Davis)

I’m not talking about UCLA-Arizona softball, Stanford-Arizona basketball, California-Arizona football (with an incredible 16 games decided by a TD or less in the 1980s and 1990s), Arizona-New Mexico football (the battle for the Kit Carson rifle) and UNLV-Arizona basketball (when Jerry Tarkanian and Lute Olson, who are not on each other’s buddy list, were running the programs).

The rival in football I remember the most from my childhood years, other than ASU, is Texas Tech. Trivia question: After ASU (36 wins against the Cats) and USC (26), what is the next program that has the most victories against the UA in the history of the football program? You got it: Texas Tech with 25 wins against the UA. In fact, the Red Raiders have the best winning percentage against Arizona — an eye-popping record of 25-4-2 (.839 percentage).

I am not old enough to remember when they played each other back in the old Border Conference, but I recall the Red Raiders and Wildcats continuing their rivalry on the football field long after the UA left to the WAC in 1962.

If the rumors of Pac-10 expansion hold true, and the conference gains six existing Big 12 teams including Texas Tech, the Wildcats and Red Raiders would again be in the same conference for the first time in 48 years. Rivals.com reported first last week that this alignment is a strong possibility. The Dallas Morning News posted a blog late Wednesday that indicated that Texas Tech and other Texas teams in the Big 12 will be invited to join the Pac-10 “soon”.

Those old enough to remember Arizona football pre-Larry Smith years, recall that perhaps the most memorable moment in the 1970s — other than John Jefferson‘s controversial catch in 1975 — was Lee Pistor‘s game-winning field goal and subsequent safety by the UA against Texas Tech also in 1975.

Arizona’s 32-28 win over Texas Tech on Oct. 18, 1975, ranks in the top 5 games ever played at Arizona Stadium, and I happened to be there at age 8. The Cats scored 26 points in the second half, including five in the last six seconds, to come back from a 21-6 halftime deficit. Pistor drilled a 41-yard field goal with six seconds remaining to put the UA ahead 30-28. After the ensuing kickoff, Arizona’s Tony Mitre tackled the Texas Tech returner in the end zone after the squib kick was mishandled by the Red Raiders.

Only two minutes earlier, UA coach Jim Young gambled on a two-point conversion and failed as Texas Tech held on to a 28-27 lead.

The win gave the 13th-ranked Cats a 5-0 record that season and a nine-game winning season stretched from the year before. Young produced the best Wildcat team in history at that point with Bruce Hill, “T” Bell, Willie Hamilton, Jim Upchurch, Obra Erby and Pistor.

Will we see less of Arizona playing USC and miss plays such as Earl Mitchell sacking Matt Barkley to end the game if the Cats are in a separate divison of the Pac-16? (Photo by US Presswire/Gary A. Vasquez)

Will we see less of Arizona playing USC and miss plays such as Earl Mitchell sacking Matt Barkley to end the game if the Cats are in a separate divison of the Pac-16? (Photo by US Presswire/Gary A. Vasquez)

Of course, the Texas Tech-Arizona football rivalry will be secondary news in this generation behind the thought of Texas’ football team coming to Tucson for the first time since 1925. That is the only meeting in history between the Longhorns and Wildcats (which Texas won 20-0). In fact, that season UA hosted USC and Texas and lost by a combined score of 76-0.

And the thought of Mike Stoops vs. big brother Bob Stoops might cause some indigestion within the Stoops’ family, but it will be exciting for the fans of Arizona and Oklahoma. Playing the basketball programs of Texas and Oklahoma is also intriguing (do you think former Texas commit Daniel Bejarano would be ready to play against the Longhorns?). In baseball, Arizona playing the storied programs of Texas and Oklahoma State is intriguing as well.

With all of this discussion, are we forgetting what playing USC and UCLA regularly means to all of the Arizona programs? What do all the UA alumni in southern California think about this news and the possibility of seeing their Wildcats less?

To escape that thought for now: The memory of Arizona’s players piling on top of each other in celebration after tackling Texas Tech for a safety to end that classic 1975 game. Bring on the Red Raiders. Arizona has a lot of catching up to do.



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  • fraser007

    Don’t you remember when we left the WAC Conference to go to the PAC-10. Our great coach Jim Young said that, “at least we won’t have to play Texas Tech anymore”. Every time we played them they kicked the snot out of us. ..As for me I don’t want to see them anymore. Keep the PAC the way it is. We have a tough enough time as it is, why increase our problems. Ohh …I know TV revenues, increased ticket prices. Money, thats why.
    Anybody remember Jim Young. He put our program on the map. God Bless him! I like our current coach but lets not forget the guys who put us there.

  • Ferraribubba

    Pardon me for playing the fool here, but why fix a good thing if it ain’t broke?
    I remember when the old Pacific Coast Conference had it’s Idaho Vandals. It was strengthened when Idaho was shown the door and the two Arizona schools were added, making the PAC-10.
    That leaves room for a couple of intersectionals on the schedule, like Notre Dame for USC, and other traditional games for the other schools.
    If I’m missing something here, could somebody please help me out?
    Fight On, yer pal, Ferrari Bubba

  • Geognostic

    The Red Raiders have this big black horse with a Zorro looking rider that charges around the field every time they score a touchdown.
    The last time that I was at a football game in Lubbock they threatened to charge Jim Young with animal cruelty because it seemed like that darn horse never stopped running.  It must have circled full tilt at least eight times that night – and we were a ranked team at the time!

  • Raiderville 3

    “RAIDERVILLE FOREVER… BIG 12 For TODAY!!!”
    The bad news for Arizona is that the Red and Black is on it’s way to see ya… The good news is that we have a brand new head coach, so you may be able to catch us slippin’.  However, Tuberville is making it happen on Defense.  Get ready, get into it, and let’s get it on!!!

  • Jean Lafitte

    My very first college game as a college student was a game at U of AZ.  Beautiful stadium setting.  I was in the Goin’ Band from Raiderland.  My Red Raiders lost the game, that time.  Very fond memory.

    • Ferraribubba

      Hey Jean: My very first college game was when I was 19 years old and my dad took me to L.A. to see USC play Notre Dame before a sellout crowd of 100,400.
      The Irish were undefeated, with All Americans Johnny Lujack at QB,  Leon Hart at end, and Frank Leahy as coach.
      The Trojans were having a so-so season, but were leading, 14-7 with less than 2 minutes to play. The Irish, with no time-outs left, faked injuries to stop the clock, enabling them to drive down the field and score, and with the PAT, ended up tying the game as the gun sounded,  at 14.
      I’ve hated the cheating Irish ever since.
      Fight On, Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba

      • Ferraribubba

        CORRECTION: I was 9 years old, not 19.  –  Bubba

    • http://www.wildaboutazcats.com Javier Morales

      Jean: Thanks for the post. You must have been at the game I mentioned, correct? I remember that back then Arizona fans had the same respect for Texas Tech that they do now when they play USC (minus the sanctions). Arizona fans feared for the worst when the game started instead of knowing the Cats would win, hence the 4-25-1 record.

  • Raider-n-Cali

    I remember when football was about playing football and not about how much money we could make.  The whole scheme has money at its roots; the game will continue and the greedy bastards will continue to ruin it. 

  • http://www.ttu.edu Jameson

    Greetings from Lubbock! What an excellent article! I never really found all the conference shuffling hoop-la interesting before, but now it is superinteresting! I look forward to new rivalries and rekindled rivalries. Learning some of the history here was just excellent. Good stuff. Here’s to the future!  Get Your Guns Up! Wreck ‘Em Tech!

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  • JayDee

    I got news for you. It may have been a rivalry in Arizona, but I’ve been a Tech fan all my life, and alumni, and U of AZ isn’t even on our rivalry radar screen. Don’t flatter yourself. Just another team to beat. Truly… never even knew there was a rivalry.
     

    • Seth

      Well, once your little raiders visit the Zona Zoo you’ll start to understand. Keep it up with the cockiness, we love pretending to be the underdog.

    • http://www.wildaboutazcats.com Javier Morales

      JayDee: You must be young. Ask some of the older Tech fans about Arizona and they’ll know.

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  • tim1234tim1234

    Remember the Alamo

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  • http://www.arizonaautoglass.org arizona auto glass

    Shees, by adding the Texas and OK schools it will be nearly impossible for ASU or U of A and a few other schools to ever win a conference crown. It was hard before but this puts a lid on it. ASU is in trouble with this expansion. Maybe they should go back to the old conference they were in? ASU does not recruit well and that is a big issue.

  • Wolverb

    AZ and Texas Tech sounds like a good thing to me.  I get tired of hearing about the Longhorns and Aggies.  Aggies failed in Big12 miserably.  Tech has done well in the Big 12 but don’t get cocky JDee, Arizona is a different school these days.  Besides I support their immigration laws.

  • Keith Deem

    There was never a rivalry with Texas Tech; we were more like lambs provided for some annual sacrifice held by a black-hooded secret society in Lubbock. Seriously, Mr. Gonzalez, let’s not celebrate a recurrence of the worst nightmare in our school’s football history.