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Will Josiah Turner’s indefinite suspension become permanent?

by on Mar. 08, 2012, under Arizona basketball
Josiah Turner

Josiah Turner struggled from the free throw line in the regular season, making 62.7 percent (64 of 102). Photo by Jason O. Watson-US PRESSWIRE

Arizona Wildcats point guard Josiah Turner is suspended again, which is a third strike.

Is he out?

At this point, the chance that Turner will never again wear the cardinal and navy (or special Nike “platinum”) seems like a very real possibility. Coach Sean Miller on Wednesday put the freshman on indefinite suspension for a violation of team rules on the eve of Arizona’s quarterfinal appearance in the Pac-12 tournament.

So, nice timing, Josiah.

“I am disappointed in Josiah for his actions,” Miller said in a statement.

“Unfortunately this suspension comes at a time of great excitement and opportunity for our team. However, the standards of our program will not be compromised under any circumstances. Hopefully, Josiah will learn a valuable lesson from this experience.”

This is the third time Miller has tried to deliver a valuable lesson to Turner.

The first was in the third game of the season, when Miller didn’t play Turner at all, using the bench as motivation. At the time, Miller said: “He’s trying to find his way from where he left high school … on and off the court, making good decisions, working hard every day.”

Said Turner of that discipline: “It made me realize what was going on, and that coach Sean Miller don’t play around.”

And, yet, Turner continued to play around.

He was suspended for a violation of a team rules and did not travel with the team to Florida on Dec. 7. Arizona lost in overtime. A win over the Gators sure would look good on the NCAA Tournament resume right about now.

From that point — Miller called it Turner’s “light coming on moment” — the freshman incrementally improved and regained his starting role.

He hasn’t been great. He didn’t make the All-Pac-12 freshman team. He is averaging a humble 6.8 points and 2.4 assists. He has made only seven 3-point shots, not as many as Jesse Perry, the undersized 6-7 center with the awkward jumper.

Turner hasn’t played like his high school recruiting rankings suggested — the second-best point guard and the No. 10 overall prospect by Rivals.com. He is laughably far away from those predictions that he would be a one-and-done player, using Tucson as a layover on his way to the NBA.

That says a lot about what you should read into recruiting rankings, but that’s a different story.

Mostly, Turner was becoming … how should we say this? … useful. Solid. Looking ahead, you could project that with time, work ethic and a good attitude he would become very good in all facets of the game, not just with clever entry passes into the lane on the pick-and-roll.

Alas …

Turner nearly has as many turnovers (60) as assists (70), and his biggest turnover might have been throwing away a chance to continue at Arizona rather than assisting his teammates in the postseason.

The reason for the latest violation of team rules hasn’t been disclosed, but Turner’s whole season smells like an over-inflated sense of entitlement — the kind of the attitude Miller has sought to eradicate from the program.

And now Turner isn’t even with the team in Los Angeles. A benching and two suspensions, the latest coming right before the most important game of the season? Yeah, that’s probably going over well with his teammates.

Miller has said Turner isn’t a “bad kid,” but the coach also isn’t the type to tolerate much nonsense, and Turner might have just overfilled the meter. And you wonder if Turner, who switched high schools halfway through his senior year, might have a wandering eye again.

On second thought, he might be one and done at Arizona after all.



  • macjones

    Arizona was a bloody LONGSHOT to win the WEAK PAC-12 conference tournament championship.  With or without Josiah.  Now, y’all Wilbur fans can bloody well kiss away the return of Turner next season. IMHO

    And yes I will play the NEGATIVE VEGAS Nellie card, because it’s warranted.

    First, a true Blue and Red confession of the Wildcat sort.  Eh.  I was BANNED on pgu for being HIGHLY outspoken of Josiah Turner in a NEGATIVE sort of fashion.

    However, that wasn’t the absolute reason I was banned.

    I was banned because I responded in VULGAR, kind to AD HOMINUM attacks against moi.  Simply because I saw Turner for what he seems to be, a MALCONTENT. A Jonah, for example. 

    He!!, any OPEN-MINDED Arizona fan could see the storm clouds forming over the Catalina’s regardin J.T.  Of course, the VAST MAJORITY, but not all, of Cat fans over at the pgu are bloody BLIND, LEMMINGS.

    Second. A former University of Arizona grad whom happens to be employed by FOXSPORTS had a similar opinion to mois.  Albeit he waxed more eloquent than I.  LOL

    An opinion from a Wildcat fan will suffice as evidence, and one of the few Arizona fans, which doesn’t continually MAKE EXCUSES for Turner’s hardwood action or off court extra-curricular activities.

    “  And I think many of us owe Jeff Goodman an apology. He wasn’t right about Josiah not qualifying, but his skepticism about Turner in general seems to have been warranted. He was right about the kind of character Turner has.  “”  This is a clear pattern of behavior with Turner, and one I don’t see changing. “  Annonymous Zona fan, pgu

    Imagine that, Mr. Goodman saw what I saw in December and yet when I was ” calling out/criticizing JT, I was thrown baseless AD HOMINUMS for offering an opinion. In stark contrast to the Zona Shee-ple at the pgu. dUh

    Well, I bloody rest my case!

    Heck, I’m guessing Goodman probably was PRIVY to some insider info’ about Turner prior to Josiah officially enrolling at the university.

    Finally, I hope Josiah Turner eventually GETS HIS ACT TOGETHER. Seriously!  Whether it be in Tucson or his next place of destination.

    Because to be suspended for the rest of the conference tournament and N.I.T., a college basketball player and or undergrad had to committ a MAJOR BLUNDER!

    • http://twitter.com/roberob916 Robert Carter

      it’s sad. I’ve seen this kid play since he was in middle school here in Sacramento. Always been a great player but had a sense of entitlement to him. I hate to say it, but it came from his mom thinking he would always be one and done. His high school coach put up with a lot during his tenure there but was finally forced to let him go after his last outburst over not getting enough shots. I’m not sure where he will end up but my best guess is overseas somewhere, I can’t see him sitting out another year after transferring.

    • http://twitter.com/UnverifiedDave David Rodriguez

      I can see why you were banned.  Your writing makes me want to gouge by eyeballs.

  • Ernie_McCray

    This is a sad sad story. It bothers me deeply to see a young man blowing a chance to be part of something great. The teams I played on didn’t have a lot going on but it was still basically fun in that we were playing ball. Playing! I wish I knew more about what Josiah’s problems are because playing was such an important part of my being I can’t even begin to imagine doing anything to jeopardize those forty minutes of doing my thing in front of a couple of thousand people, let alone several thousands. How thrilling that must be; playing in a post season, going to the dance… I would have given anything to play under the guidance of a coach like Sean Miller in a program like the university has and has had for a while now. Josiah, I hope you have one more chance and that you come through. You’re playing in an era I couldn’t fantasize.
    A NOTE TO FANS: Write a letter to this young man and give him some encouragement, a helping hand. This is a community issue.

  • macjones

    Thank you Mr. Carter!

    I’ve been a Wildcat fan since the FOX days and I absolutely attempt not to negatively, criticize Arizona players.  However, there was something which wasn’t ” right ” about Turner since day one in Tucson. Be it his on court balling and or court demeanor.  Or his off court situations.

    By the way Mr. Carter, I, too, believe Turner will go the overseas route. That’s IF he doesn’t return to Tucson.

    Nonetheless, I do hope the LIGHT eventually turns on for Josiah Turner.  Where ever he plays basketball in the near term future.

  • macjones

    “  I can see why you were banned.  Your writing makes me want to gouge by eyeballs. “———————–
    Perhaps. 

    But I was EXCOMMUNICATED because I called individuals ” out ” akin to you, H-O-S-E or P-E-D-R-O!

    And the latter was a light, buffonish example of me playing the TIT-4-TAT immature, ad hominum game, HOSE!

  • macjones

    Thanks be to Heaven for men akin to Mr. McCray.

    And that is an excellant notion you mentioned in your A NOTE TO FANS!

  • Oldwest2

    Wow what a shame, I certainly do not know the circumstances surrounding Josiah’s indefinite suspension, but I am willing to bet the farm Coach Miller gave him every chance and every opportunity to succeed and be a part of this team. 

    Now it’s time to say good bye to this young man and wish him well in all his endeavors in life and maybe the game of basketball. Sometimes maturity takes a long time to establish and realize what it takes to be a young man in such a spot light.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JBWinski John Winski

    Excellent article and great perspective!  I just wish it was easier to find your articles on the TucsonCitizen website these days…